Alaska to double non-res tag prices?!?!?!

[colonel00]

Ouch, this stings a bit. We were looking at possibly doing another bou trip next year but $650 for a caribou tag on a DIY hunt is pricey.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/home/pdfs/2016_2017_alaska_license_fees.pdf

 

[bates]

yeah,

i heard that you can possibly try and buy tags before 2017 and still get 2016 pricing, i need to look into it as my first trip will be next fall not sure how it works.

 

[Stid2677]

I admit this seems excessive,, but Alaska has not raised prices in like 20 years. There were increases for residents too, and other fees increase and additional stamps added. The state is running out of money and wildlife management cost money. I mean, should a moose tag not cost more than a elk tag in the L48 states?? The state was missing out on allot of money from the matching funds by the feds from the Pittman-Robertson act. I supported the bill when it was brought up and I think it was long overdue. Alaska still allows one to use a great tag on a lesser animal, I don't believe any other state does that,, that is a nice option to have sometime.

I paid 479.00 dollars to enter the Montana elk drawing about 17 years ago, I just looked and a elk tag goes for 851.00 now for a non res, that is about twice what I paid 17 years ago, so seems about right to me. Want play,,one has to pay......


Trust me when I say,, this was and still is a sore issue. I don't like paying more either,, I just hope they use the money wisely and do some flight surveys and get some good population data.

 

[JWP58]

Guess you could move to Alaska.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Oil needs to come back up

 

[Kevin Dill]

Actually low oil prices have saved me, my family and my business thousands of dollars, so I'll prefer to keep oil prices down from the historic highs. Those prices were great for Alaska and the Permanent Fund recipients, but hard as hell on most of the rest of us. I have to wonder where airline prices would be if oil was running $100 per barrel or more.

I haven't complained about the NR tag increases. There is a huge and indisputable disparity between what ADFG collects in fees from NR vs residents. Then throw in the 3:1 matching PR funds and you're talking a cargo container of money coming in from NR revenues. I personally think it places the state and ADFG in a position of greater dependency on NR dollars and sets up a situation where resident opportunities could some day be pushed aside in the interest of huge NR monies. The state is going to look after its financial needs at the expense of residents. The recent severe cut in Permanent Fund pay-outs is ample proof of that. I think resident sportsmen would only strengthen their position with ADFG if they could put up one-fifth of the annual money collected from NR hunters. If it keeps up, there will come a day when the Alaska hunting economy and policies will be as much about nonresident opportunities as resident. The money will insure that.

 

[5shot]

Probably why I do less and less hunting every year...I don't see myself hunting in another 10 years.

 

[Muledeerfanatic]

How can they raise non res fees and not even charge residents for almost all the tags?

 

[Stid2677]

How can they raise non res fees and not even charge residents for almost all the tags?

In a word,,, politics. We tried,, too many old timers refusing to change from "the way it's always been", These fees had to be passed by the lawmakers, not F&G. The native and remote communities that are cash poor also were against any resident tag fees.

 

[Daniel_M]

In a word,,, politics. We tried,, too many old timers refusing to change from "the way it's always been", These fees had to be passed by the lawmakers, not F&G. The native and remote communities that are cash poor also were against any resident tag fees.

This itself is a whole new area of soreness in some units. Native corps blocking residents but selling unguided access to its private lands for a premium.

The price increase is really a lateral move more inline with the lower 48. Almost $700 for Idaho elk license and tags for me.


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[adventure907]

yeah,

i heard that you can possibly try and buy tags before 2017 and still get 2016 pricing, i need to look into it as my first trip will be next fall not sure how it works.

I have heard that you can purchase licenses at the 2016 pricing before January 1st, as that is when the bill raising prices comes into effect. I would imagine buying tags is the same, but I am not 100 percent positive on that.

 

[colonel00]

When do they open purchasing of 2017 tags? Currently I can only view tags for 2016

 

[Kevin Dill]

Every bit of intel I can gather tells me you can purchase 2017 licenses NOW at 2016 prices through the end of the year. Locking tags are not YET available for 2017 and there is no guarantee of their release date or pricing, except they will be doubled starting Jan 1, 2017. If they are available earlier it may be at 2017 or 2016 prices but nothing has been released from ADFG on that yet.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Actually low oil prices have saved me, my family and my business thousands of dollars, so I'll prefer to keep oil prices down from the historic highs. Those prices were great for Alaska and the Permanent Fund recipients, but hard as hell on most of the rest of us. I have to wonder where airline prices would be if oil was running $100 per barrel or more.

I haven't complained about the NR tag increases. There is a huge and indisputable disparity between what ADFG collects in fees from NR vs residents. Then throw in the 3:1 matching PR funds and you're talking a cargo container of money coming in from NR revenues. I personally think it places the state and ADFG in a position of greater dependency on NR dollars and sets up a situation where resident opportunities could some day be pushed aside in the interest of huge NR monies. The state is going to look after its financial needs at the expense of residents. The recent severe cut in Permanent Fund pay-outs is ample proof of that. I think resident sportsmen would only strengthen their position with ADFG if they could put up one-fifth of the annual money collected from NR hunters. If it keeps up, there will come a day when the Alaska hunting economy and policies will be as much about nonresident opportunities as resident. The money will insure that.

I'm the opposite, with farm commodities market value at 50% of what it was in 1960, I'll take the oil and NG check. On top of that no fun watching town wether away. Most Air lines contracted out at last year prices...

Fact of the matter every western state is dependent on NR dollars. Even NM where Outfitters and NR only are allowed 16% of the tags. Toss in the LO voucher program and NR pretty much keep DNR's in business. Look at Idaho and it's NR tag allocation and tag use for bears,lions or wolves.

NR tag costs are just part of it, no secret that loss of oil income tax money hurts many communities and tax coffers

 

[realunlucky]

Man what a two edged sword. Great if they use the money right (which they won't because of the political nature up there) Sure it will put some out over tag prices but really logistics are what cost in Alaska. It will probably make some second guess two caribou tags

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[SpannerAK]

Ouch, this stings a bit. We were looking at possibly doing another bou trip next year but $650 for a caribou tag on a DIY hunt is pricey.

http://www.adfg.alaska.gov/static/home/pdfs/2016_2017_alaska_license_fees.pdf

Compare our tag prices to every western state in the lower 48 and we are still quite a bargain even with the price increases. Not to mention outside of Bison, you can pretty much hunt every species over the counter.

 

[cocky84]

doubling prices of tags is not out of line at all. $800 for an otc moose tag is still cheap!!! Ive paid $650 for a Colorado otc elk tag gor the last 10 years and had tag soup on more than half of them. Don't get me wrong, its not like I jumped for joy to see that im gonna have to pay 2x as much now, but i get it.

That being said, im still interested in trying to get 1 more trip in for the 2016 price. Any new info on if we can buy 2017 tags before they raise the prices?

 

[robie]

My opinion is that they just end up irritating people with such a large increase at one time, but if they would write it into law that the price of the tags increase based on inflation you would gradually change it over time and not cause the current scenario.

 

[Daniel_M]

My opinion is that they just end up irritating people with such a large increase at one time, but if they would write it into law that the price of the tags increase based on inflation you would gradually change it over time and not cause the current scenario.

Politics my man. It's been a whispered agenda for years with nothing ever changing. Any and all resources pertaining to fish and game, both commercial and sport come with heavy handed politics. The constitution is written bearing that any and all resources within Alaska can be used for profit purposes for the state, game falls into this ergo the trickle effect of non-residents against guide requirements, draw/harvest tag guidelines and OTC tag revenue.


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[TEmbry]

The only thing I'll say about the whole NR issue is that it shouldn't have been an across the board doubling. Dall Sheep should be $2k at least, but $450 for a black bear is stupid expensive. We should be encouraging opportunistic predator hunting, not discouraging it. I think Moose, Caribou, etc are in line with L48 species costs.


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