4cMuley
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Totally not relevant but funny - I read this title as someone shot or is wanting to shoot a moose with an AK. My mind = “hell yea, brother”
Carry on
Carry on
Buffalo Bore makes a fairly powerful 44spl hard cast load. Probably too much for a Charter Arms Bulldog, but good in a Smith 696. A guy could probably do a lot worse.Is a 5 round, 44 special revolver too 'small' or underpowered for a AK backcountry carry gun?
I have the S&W 396 Airlite Ti Mountain Lite... I'll have to dig up load capacity recommendations.Buffalo Bore makes a fairly powerful 44spl hard cast load. Probably too much for a Charter Arms Bulldog, but good in a Smith 696. A guy could probably do a lot worse.
Yes, I have read warning reports on this same potential issue, but I have also seen responses that suggest for this particular S&W ti revolver, that the 'caution' is a bit exaggerated. So, you had it happen to your 44 personally? Obviously, I have some trial and error testing to do on mine. Although, it may just be a good excuse to "need" a new pistolCareful getting too heavy on those "Ti" guns. I don't know about the 396, but the N Frame 329 (.44 mag) can seize up the "internal lock" system under recoil with heavy cast bear loads. If it happens, the gun is out of the fight until completely disassembled.
Yes, I have read warning reports on this same potential issue, but I have also seen responses that suggest for this particular S&W ti revolver, that the 'caution' is a bit exaggerated. So, you had it happen to your 44 personally? Obviously, I have some trial and error testing to do on mine. Although, it may just be a good excuse to "need" a new pistol![]()
There are a few amazing elders in AK that have used a ruger mini 14 for all their bear hunts. Being able to shoot well seems to be pretty key. I've carried a Ruger redhawk but the things a tank, now I just try to have my main rifle close to meBefore you go loading up your handgun with heavy rounds that “probably” won’t lock it up, remember that there are plenty of reports of bear attacks beings stopped with 9mm. I’d be curious to see actual situations where a well placed shot with a decent bullet wasn’t enough.
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I had a Glock 20 10mm with a lone wolf barrel and hard cast bullets last trip. It actually jammed a couple times which was very unsettling. I sold it shortly after returning. Ended up picking up a Taurus Raging Hunter in 454 Casull.
I don’t plan on dropping my 300RUM to pull out my revolver. I figured if it comes down to drawing the pistol, I’d be lucky to get off 5 rounds by the time a bear is already in me.
Make that 2 rounds. I practice with a lone wolf barrel in my Glock, but for protection I run the stock barrel. I’ve never had it jam with my bear loads, but it has once or twice with others in the lone wolf barrel. The not fully supported factory chamber isn’t without a purpose.
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Just had an ah-ha moment with measuring moose spread using my scope. It’s a front focal plane nightforce in mils. Never needed to measure with it and I’m new to mils but figured out the math and man is it easy.
1. Range animal
2. Multiply yardage by .036 (mil per yard). This will give you the total inches in each mil at that yardage.
3.
Option A - use scope to measure total mils and multiply number of mils by inches per mill at calculated yardage.
Option B - if in an antler restricted unit (50” moose example) divide 50” by inches per mil and make sure antler spread is wider than number after dividing.
Ex. Animal is 480 yards.
480 yards x .036 (mils per yard) = 17.28 inches per mil
Option A above - 3.5 mils x 17.28 = 60.48” spread
Option B above -
50” divided by 17.28 inches = 2.89 mils. Moose is over 2.89 and is legal.
For safe reason I would either round up to 3 mils to be sure or divide 55” by 17.28 inches to be on the safe side which equals 3.2.
Obviously it’s hard to measure to precision on a live animal with a scope but this method will help a lot if anyone needs a way to help field judge. This method will only work with a front focal plane scope and the math above only works with mils. I’m sure it will work with moa as well in a front focal plane scope if you figure out the math. Mils are just so much easier.
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Just had an ah-ha moment with measuring moose spread using my scope. It’s a front focal plane nightforce in mils. Never needed to measure with it and I’m new to mils but figured out the math and man is it easy.
1. Range animal
2. Multiply yardage by .036 (mil per yard). This will give you the total inches in each mil at that yardage.
3.
Option A - use scope to measure total mils and multiply number of mils by inches per mill at calculated yardage.
Option B - if in an antler restricted unit (50” moose example) divide 50” by inches per mil and make sure antler spread is wider than number after dividing.
Ex. Animal is 480 yards.
480 yards x .036 (mils per yard) = 17.28 inches per mil
Option A above - 3.5 mils x 17.28 = 60.48” spread
Option B above -
50” divided by 17.28 inches = 2.89 mils. Moose is over 2.89 and is legal.
For safe reason I would either round up to 3 mils to be sure or divide 55” by 17.28 inches to be on the safe side which equals 3.2.
Obviously it’s hard to measure to precision on a live animal with a scope but this method will help a lot if anyone needs a way to help field judge. This method will only work with a front focal plane scope and the math above only works with mils. I’m sure it will work with moa as well in a front focal plane scope if you figure out the math. Mils are just so much easier.
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Nobody said there’d be math
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Works in a second focal plane as well, just have to be at the correct (usually full but not always) power for the reticle to be accurate. One more step, but if I’m measuring with my reticle, scope is going to be on max power anyway. I don’t like the FFP weight penalty, and I’ve not found one with a reticle that is of any use at low power.
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