Air Lock Industries Suppressor

[h2so4]

Friday night, triple J in Littleton co, 7pm. Come shoot the ZG 6.5. Previous post has all the details. Message me with questions.

 

[h2so4]

See everyone shortly. The Saturday AM session did not receive any interest, so it won't be happening.

I’ve got the range set aside for us on Friday night and Saturday morning 9am.

Friday, Nov 14th, 7pm at triple j armory in Littleton, co. This will be indoors. Please be aware of the limitations and don’t be fussy. No one else will be on the range except our group.
I will bring a 17” .223 and 16” 6.5cm along with a TBAC Ultra 5 gen2. I’m going to try and have an OG 6.5 on hand as well.

You must complete the waiver to enter the range. https://app.otterwaiver.com/p/triple-j-armory/eaydF7XjpO

If you get there a few minutes early, please consider buying a box of ammo for us to shoot from the shop or some other item you may need.

If anyone local can “run” the Saturday morning session, send me a message. And by run I mean heard the cats and make sure range is clean & clear after the session.

If you want to check out the suppressor but can’t make it this weekend (I know, short notice) please send me a pm. I’m going to work with other Kyle to get another date on the books with more notice to all.

 

[Tahoe1305]

Big thanks to @DannyB for coordinating with @h2so4 and @sndmn11 and getting a ZG 6.5 for us to mess with tonight in the Denver area.

@h2so4, @grant00, and I were able to partake as well as the shop manager at JJJ Armory in Littleton.

We used 3 rifle hosts. We did full 3 shot comparisons with a 16” Tikka 223 and 20” Tikka 6.5C using the same ammo between cans. We also did a smaller comparison with a 16” Tikka 6.5C.

Cans we compared in the full comparison were:
-TBAC Ultra 5
-ZG 6.5
-OG 6.5
-SiCo Scythe (no it didn’t blow up)
-DD Enticer STi
-DA Nomad LTi
(On the 16” 6.5C we just compared the ZG and OG).

To note, this was in a smaller indoor range. We did take full videos of all three shots on all cans, but in reviewing the footage after the sound of the AC unit was more dominant than the rifle reports and we didn’t feel they did the best job representing how “quiet” the respective cans were.

That said, I think between the four of us listening live we got some good data.

Overall, as with others in this thread, the ZG 6.5 was impressive. Not only for its size, but in general it held its own with the 6-7” cans as well (DD & Scythe).

We all felt the ZG outperformed the U5 on both hosts. We also felt it edged out the OG by a bit too. I personally thought it was close to the scythe but behind the DD by a bit. Surprisingly, we didn’t notice much of a difference with the OG and ZG on the 16” 6.5C compared to the 20” 6.5C.

The OG and Scythe did spark a healthy amount. The ZG did not, which was surprising.

In all, we were happy with how the ZG performed, especially for its size. As a hunting can it will be tough to beat. Finish was awesome and our sample weighed right at 6oz.

Look forward to snagging one in a few weeks. I’m sure the other guys will pile on or dispute anything they disagree with.

If I get time I “may” try and splice the videos together and post, but again it wasn’t as helpful as I hoped.

 

[atmat]

Big thanks to @DannyB for coordinating with @h2so4 and @sndmn11 and getting a ZG 6.5 for us to mess with tonight in the Denver area.

@h2so4, @grant00, and I were able to partake as well as the shop manager at JJJ Armory in Littleton.

We used 3 rifle hosts. We did full 3 shot comparisons with a 16” Tikka 223 and 20” Tikka 6.5C using the same ammo between cans. We also did a smaller comparison with a 16” Tikka 6.5C.

Cans we compared in the full comparison were:
-TBAC Ultra 5
-ZG 6.5
-OG 6.5
-SiCo Scythe (no it didn’t blow up)
-DD Enticer STi
-DA Nomad LTi
(On the 16” 6.5C we just compared the ZG and OG).

To note, this was in a smaller indoor range. We did take full videos of all three shots on all cans, but in reviewing the footage after the sound of the AC unit was more dominant than the rifle reports and we didn’t feel they did the best job representing how “quiet” the respective cans were.

That said, I think between the four of us listening live we got some good data.

Overall, as with others in this thread, the ZG 6.5 was impressive. Not only for its size, but in general it held its own with the 6-7” cans as well (DD & Scythe).

We all felt the ZG outperformed the U5 on both hosts. We also felt it edged out the OG by a bit too. I personally thought it was close to the scythe but behind the DD by a bit. Surprisingly, we didn’t notice much of a difference with the OG and ZG on the 16” 6.5C compared to the 20” 6.5C.

The OG and Scythe did spark a healthy amount. The ZG did not, which was surprising.

In all, we were happy with how the ZG performed, especially for its size. As a hunting can it will be tough to beat. Finish was awesome and our sample weighed right at 6oz.

Look forward to snagging one in a few weeks. I’m sure the other guys will pile on or dispute anything they disagree with.

If I get time I “may” try and splice the videos together and post, but again it wasn’t as helpful as I hoped.

Thanks for this fellas. The more feedback, the better. Wish I could’ve gone!

 

[HuntHarder]

Seems like by pretty much all reports, this is the leading series of hunting cans on the market. I just added an OG65 to the stable, probably should have gotten the ZG first. Oh well, just going to have to buy another one I suppose.

 

[grant00]

Big thanks to @DannyB for coordinating with @h2so4 and @sndmn11 and getting a ZG 6.5 for us to mess with tonight in the Denver area.

@h2so4, @grant00, and I were able to partake as well as the shop manager at JJJ Armory in Littleton.

We used 3 rifle hosts. We did full 3 shot comparisons with a 16” Tikka 223 and 20” Tikka 6.5C using the same ammo between cans. We also did a smaller comparison with a 16” Tikka 6.5C.

Cans we compared in the full comparison were:
-TBAC Ultra 5
-ZG 6.5
-OG 6.5
-SiCo Scythe (no it didn’t blow up)
-DD Enticer STi
-DA Nomad LTi
(On the 16” 6.5C we just compared the ZG and OG).

To note, this was in a smaller indoor range. We did take full videos of all three shots on all cans, but in reviewing the footage after the sound of the AC unit was more dominant than the rifle reports and we didn’t feel they did the best job representing how “quiet” the respective cans were.

That said, I think between the four of us listening live we got some good data.

Overall, as with others in this thread, the ZG 6.5 was impressive. Not only for its size, but in general it held its own with the 6-7” cans as well (DD & Scythe).

We all felt the ZG outperformed the U5 on both hosts. We also felt it edged out the OG by a bit too. I personally thought it was close to the scythe but behind the DD by a bit. Surprisingly, we didn’t notice much of a difference with the OG and ZG on the 16” 6.5C compared to the 20” 6.5C.

The OG and Scythe did spark a healthy amount. The ZG did not, which was surprising.

In all, we were happy with how the ZG performed, especially for its size. As a hunting can it will be tough to beat. Finish was awesome and our sample weighed right at 6oz.

Look forward to snagging one in a few weeks. I’m sure the other guys will pile on or dispute anything they disagree with.

If I get time I “may” try and splice the videos together and post, but again it wasn’t as helpful as I hoped.

Yes, huge thank you for the opportunity set up by @DannyB, Triple J for hosting after hours, and @h2so4 for organizing.

Agree with the conclusions above. ZG 6.5 was a top performer, I did notice more of the “whooshing” sound made by the ZG vs. others. Hard to explain but just felt more tame and not as sharp or boomy as various comparable weight options we had. The DA Nomad is a leader as well, but comes with an obvious size and weight penalty compared to an ultralight 6.5 specific option.
The Ultra 5 was by far the loudest and most boomy. The OG was very close to the ZG. But with the penalty of extra length and some mass for the OG, the ZG seems like a clear choice.

I am newer to the suppressor world and have limited experience but for a hunting specific can I am looking forward to getting a ZG 6.5 as well. With the Scythe Ti issues, the DD Enticer STi or would be my second choice or the OG 6.5.
Shooting all of the above was an invaluable experience and I’m grateful for the whole community here and Airlock for providing the opportunity!

 

[Conman243]

@DannyB

@DannyB what would be the result if you increased the of the dedicated 223 can to that of the Airlock 6.5? An Airlock 6.5 shell with the .223 bore diameter? I'm intrigued by your 223 can but also can't help but wonder how much more quiet it could potentially be if you utilized the same footprint as the Airlock 6.5 and bumped up the volumne. The Airlock 6.5 is already plenty small for most of us and would prefer even further suppression gains.

My thoughts exactly. The size and weight of the Airlock 6.5 already exceed my personal requirements. I would rather have the increased sound reduction over a smaller suppressor. Would think it would be worth testing.

 

[Cmack0102]

We haven’t printed any prototypes yet, still working on the .22 and .30 at the moment. I’ve got drawings of the prototypes on my computer, but I don’t want to share too many details until it’s printed and tested. Based on the performance we’re seeing with the .22, we think we can downsize the 6 a bit without compromising performance. The exact ratio is still TBD

Is the release plan .30 -> .22 -> 6mm? Any chance the 6mm makes it to the market by next summer/fall?

 

[DannyB]

Is the release plan .30 -> .22 -> 6mm? Any chance the 6mm makes it to the market by next summer/fall?

22 and 30 are coming this winter, with the 6mm planned for spring. And yes, we’ll be looking into a longer 6.5 ZG in the future.

 

[ACHILLES]

Have you shot those two side by side? I have the ZG and an Enticer LTi but not the STi or Wolf Hunter. Would be curious in your thoughts.

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Shot the 6.5ZG and the enticer sti on a 20” 6creed today with factory black 105gr ammo. There were 2 of us. The ZG6.5 was noticeably quieter.

 

[Schroedernd]

Shot the 6.5ZG and the enticer sti on a 20” 6creed today with factory black 105gr ammo. There were 2 of us. The ZG6.5 was noticeably quieter.

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Can't wait to get my 6.5 can after Jan 1 to run on my 6mm arc!

 

[Lawnboi]

We need to group fund one to cut in half

 

[Presswood_936]

Shot the 6.5ZG and the enticer sti on a 20” 6creed today with factory black 105gr ammo. There were 2 of us. The ZG6.5 was noticeably quieter.

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Pretty wild stuff

 

[hibernation]

Have you shot those two side by side? I have the ZG and an Enticer LTi but not the STi or Wolf Hunter. Would be curious in your thoughts.


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How's the ZG stack up against the LTi? Remotely similar, or is the LTi still noticeably quieter?

 

[k_Riddle]

How's the ZG stack up against the LTi? Remotely similar, or is the LTi still noticeably quieter?

I think I remember seeing a comparison somewhere (maybe in this thread?) that the Lti is a little more quiet, but obviously in a much bigger package. Hopefully I’m not confusing it with a different can comparison.

 

[wind gypsy]

I think I remember seeing a comparison somewhere (maybe in this thread?) that the Lti is a little more quiet, but obviously in a much bigger package. Hopefully I’m not confusing it with a different can comparison.

We all felt the ZG outperformed the U5 on both hosts. We also felt it edged out the OG by a bit too. I personally thought it was close to the scythe but behind the DD by a bit.

 

[MuleyFever]

I dont remember seeing anything but what have you noticed, if anything, in regards to felt recoil when you are comparing these?

 

[ACHILLES]

Here are the db(a) ratings

ZG 6.5 (129.5) 6.5creed 20” federal gm 140gr
4.9” 5.7oz

DD STI (128) .308win 20” M118LR 175gr
7.1” 9.5oz

DD LTI (124.8) .308win 20”M118LR 175gr
8.5” 10.9oz

DB (A) numbers are from Airlocks website and the tbac 2023 summit for the DD’s. I assume the ZG 6.5 sounded much quieter on the 20” 6mm cm yesterday because the DD STI is 30cal and the ZG is 6.5mm bore. Also as others have mentioned the sound signature from the ZG is very soft as well compared to most other cans. More of a whoosh than a crack sound.

 

[Hurley88]

Some have mentioned that it does seem to reduce recoil more than other suppressors. I’ve shot 2-300 rounds now side by side with my OG (rifles are almost the exact same) and I can say there’s definitely something to that.

Took a while to notice it when base recoil energy is only like 11 ft-lbs, but there’s definitely a further reduction with the Airlock.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

I’m waiting on the 30 cal before I decide if I’m keeping my 06.
Curious about the recoil reduction as well.