Advancements in the last 11 years?

[desertdwellerdyl]

Tuning technology for the DIY person now. Great to not have to rely on a shop when you need little tweaks.

It makes tuning easier but not sure it makes it more affordable. If you already have a bow, can get a new press and fingers for $500 (if you get the EZ Green Press). Plus don't you still need a bow press/draw board to swap strings/cables, make changes to the peep, fix/check cam timing, install mods, & check/get arrow length? Don't a lot of shops also have policies where purchasing the bow from them includes free tuning?

I agree it is a really nice feature though especially over time when messing with different arrow setups and going up or down in draw weights.

 

[big44a4]

It makes tuning easier but not sure it makes it more affordable. If you already have a bow, can get a new press and fingers for $500 (if you get the EZ Green Press). Plus don't you still need a bow press/draw board to swap strings/cables, make changes to the peep, fix/check cam timing, install mods, & check/get arrow length? Don't a lot of shops also have policies where purchasing the bow from them includes free tuning?

I agree it is a really nice feature though especially over time when messing with different arrow setups and going up or down in draw weights.

Agreed. I’m still in camp if you really love a bow and shoot it well don’t upgrade and sell that bow! Keep it.

“Free” tuning the first time when you buy it yes typically but a lot of shops just slap things on someone else sends it through paper and out the door. This does not get a broadhead flying well for most and wound or miss animals. I have a press but still upgraded this year to get the tuning stuff without shimming or moving the rest. I also got my bow for a great price not anywhere close to MSRP.

 

[desertdwellerdyl]

Agreed. I’m still in camp if you really love a bow and shoot it well don’t upgrade and sell that bow! Keep it.

“Free” tuning the first time when you buy it yes typically but a lot of shops just slap things on someone else sends it through paper and out the door. This does not get a broadhead flying well for most and wound or miss animals. I have a press but still upgraded this year to get the tuning stuff without shimming or moving the rest. I also got my bow for a great price not anywhere close to MSRP.

Same i’m gonna keep my halon x comp and honestly hoping to get another bow to turn it into a strictly target bow.

Yeah I agree, they shoot a fletched arrow through paper and call it good. I’m personally looking at PSE Mach 34 for my next bow or a Prime 34 RVX+ but maybe in a year or two when the prices drop

 

[mattmann]

I switched from a Mathews VRX to a Mach 33 carbon and absolutely love it but plan on keeping for a while. I could have bought a NICE rifle for what I spent lol


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[ozyclint]

I'm a trad shooter with no knowledge of compounds so forgive my ignorance.

Sounds like we've reached 'peak compound'. Is significant gains in performance possible? What new material technology is in the pipeline?

 

[Cdnance]

So I’m not near as experienced as some but I’ll say this.
I used to shoot an old Bear way back when. Then I went to a Mathew’s switchback xt (one of the best solo and ever made in my opinion) and it was a word of difference.
Now I’m shooting a Mathew’s Phase 4.
Large gaps between different bows and each one was a substantial improvement. Not necessarily speed, but overall experience.
Quieter, smoother draw cycle, greater let off, more solid back wall, better ergonomics.
I personally believe that things have gotten better over time, and will continue to improve.

Plus, there isn’t a single hobby that we as men enjoy that isn’t expensive! Get what you like! You’ll compare it to what you know for a long time but you will come to know it and love it.

 

[desertdwellerdyl]

I'm a trad shooter with no knowledge of compounds so forgive my ignorance.

Sounds like we've reached 'peak compound'. Is significant gains in performance possible? What new material technology is in the pipeline?

Magnesium risers is probably the next in line. I think in terms of speed it would developing new materials or limb designs that have more elastic energy stored to increase speed.

 

[billysmals]

I’ll start with this, the e35 is one of the best bows ever made.

In the last 10 years, performance hasn’t really changed. I will say that I think fastish (true 330-340 ibo) bows are easier to shoot well now than they were 10 years ago. Dynamic brace height that can be attributed to past parallel limbs is probably the biggest factor there.

The only real advancements that I think are worth a little more coin is tuning capability of newer bows. The shimming and tuning systems of the last handful of years are much better than the 5+ year old bows. Integrated accessories are meh. Sure it’s a little more streamlined and a little lighter, but there’s no substitute for a back bar if you really want that effect.

The new truth MG series of bows is going to drive a lot of change in archery IF they can stay in business long enough. From all accounts I’m seeing from very trusted sources, their bows are legit. They’re lighter than anything on the market, just as fast, easy to tune, forgiving to horizontal nock travel, and they’re cheaper than comparable ultra light options.


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This exactly! My E35 was sold and I can't even remember why I sold it??? I think I bought a PSE Carbon Air.... I am wary of the Truth MG series. I like what I see, but Altra is a warning shot and is now out of business.

I also think that bow designs have changed, but not as drastic. The Elite post previously with picks is a great example, I see more bows going to less reflexive riser designs, which helps with accuracy and balance. This is not the reason to upgrade though. Many of those older bows have shorter and high reflexed risers where I see more newer bows going more straight and longer risers. This isn't something you see in a spec sheet though with speeds, brace, ect... I think the target bows have really spread this into the hunting market.

My shop offers an initial tune, but then after that you spend for everything, including warranty work. I had a QAD HDX that was replaced under warranty and it cost me $25 for them to do it....So when I have to broadhead tune I'm not spending another xxxxx dollars xxxxxx months later with a range that is only 20yards as I broadhead tune at longer distances.... I have a press now, (which was purchased for bow maintenance more so than tuning) but if I can tune without the press all the more! The problem I have with older bows is many didn't even offer a way to shift the cams, which is how I like to tune first. Some had a "yoke" tuning method, but without that or shimming, many of those bows only tuning option was the rest which is not my 1st tuning method....but this is just me.

All that being said....I've been looking at finding Mathews EZ7 or an Elite synergy....those draw cycles call to me....

 

[rye_a]

I'm thinking I'll shoot my Energy 35 this year (dropped it off to get new strings and cables this morning), then maybe buy a lightly used Mathews Lift X 33 for 40% less than MSRP next year when the Lift XXX comes out.

 

[butcherboy]

I was going to buy a new bow this year but I’ve changed my mind again. Current bow is a Hoyt carbon element from 2012. I just can’t seem to justify the cost of a new bow and accessories. My local shop does offer a $400.00 discount around November to make room for the new bows coming out. Maybe then….