AB raptor owners--POI shift between +reflex and no reflex?

[Macintosh]

I found a couple threads where folks asked this question, but as far as I could find there were no answers.

If you own or have used an AB raptor suppressor, how much (if any) point of impact shift have you seen when comparing suppressor+reflex, to only the suppressor? I’m NOT wondering about shift with and without the suppressor, Im only asking about shift with the suppressor without any reflex reflex, versus with only the suppressor but without the reflex.
Is the amount of shift between with versus without reflex different with a sporter contour barrel, as opposed to a moderately heavy barrel like a CTR or light palma contour? Thanks in advance for any info.

@Ryan Avery since I know you own one and like it.

 

[WyoWild]

I have used mine with medium and sporter contours. There was almost no measurable shift. In my experience maybe .25 MOA shift low when using a 3" reflex on a superlite Tikka barrel. Even less with my 0.750 barrel.

I ended up not using the reflex at all to save weight. It does add some further sound suppression but not much. YMMV.

 

[Mangata]

Have not noticed any shift between reflex and direct mount.

 

[SloppyJ]

I havent noticed any but truth be told I shoot it mostly with the reflex. However it's currently stuck on my 300prc soaking in kroil. I threaded on the normal back cap and let her rip a few different trips. Didn't notice any shift but theyre short carbon barrels.

 

[ElPollo]

I cannot recall seeing any significant POI shift after using it on rifles from 223 to 300, but I’ve rarely used it without the reflex. I bought the can thinking that the modularity would be a big benefit, but I almost always use it with the reflex and the 30 cal front cap. Guess I am just a creature of habit.

 

[Marbles]

I think I had a vertical POI shift with going from a 3 inch bull barrel reflex to flush mount, on a 17 inch Tikka lite barrel, but I don't remember well enough to swear by it.

 

[wyosam]

Have an r6 with 3”, no difference on the two rifles I’ve tried with and without on. Both light contours, one 16” one 20”. Something I was very curious about since a like the reflex at the range, but will skip the extra weight for any hunting where I’m carrying it far at all.


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[JGRaider]

I cannot recall seeing any significant POI shift after using it on rifles from 223 to 300, but I’ve rarely used it without the reflex. I bought the can thinking that the modularity would be a big benefit, but I almost always use it with the reflex and the 30 cal front cap. Guess I am just a creature of habit.

I know you've had your AB a while, and I finally found one at Silencer Shop. It comes with a 3" reflex bull barrel. Is it worth the hassle of swapping it for the regular barrel version? Any quieter, can you even tell the difference? I don't ever see myself needing the bull version. Thanks.