A Personal Gripe

[Pharmseller]

Dude

Cupcakes are delicious.

Delicious comes from the combination of the French Norman word “deel,” which of course has changed spelling over time to the modern term “deal,” relating to card play, as in to deal a hand of cards, along with the Anglo-Saxon word “icio” (pronounced icky-o, not ishi-o), which means “from the bottom of,” so when playing cards if the dealer were found to be cheating he would have to provide the players with a snack, or be hanged.

Small, individual cakes, such as cupcakes, were the preferred snack offering, since they could be prepared quickly with readily available ingredients. Cupcakes, therefore, became inextricably aligned with the word delicious, so much so that the two words became indistinguishable until the early 1500’s, when fruit pies became popular, due, of course, to the invention of Crisco, and the resultant explosion in dual-crust baking. Pie is, as everyone knows, superior to cake (yes, even the delicious cupcake, frosted or no), so the term delicious was wrenched away from its relationship to cupcakes, and used once more as a standalone modifier.

So, if you’re not going to give a crap about something, don’t give a crap about something other than cupcakes.




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[Wyobohunter]

It's fascinating to me how the pendulum swings. Not even just with regard to the question at hand in this thread, but just general sentiment.

We (as a country) went so far with sensitivity and correctness (woke) that you knew a correction was inevitable. Now, it's so hip to be anti woke and anti PC, people are hunting for things to call woke. Just like the woke were doing before the swing.

People are just searching for things to cry "woke!" and point fingers so everyone knows they are hip.

I'll bet most people who don't use "kill" aren't woke or sensitive, they are just using the word harvest because those who brought them up hunting used it, or because thats what it says on the tag or when you register.

Personally I'll use "shot" or "took" when talking about a successful hunt. I'm trying to make a distinction because it's for food.

I kill a f-ton of prairie dogs.

Good points. The word “woke” is also a funny one, it’s considered cool for a particular cohort to use it as an insult; most of them have no idea where the word/use even comes from. It isn’t an invention of the 2000s.

 

[Wyobohunter]

Dude

Cupcakes are delicious.

Delicious comes from the combination of the French Norman word “deel,” which of course has changed spelling over time to the modern term “deal,” relating to card play, as in to deal a hand of cards, along with the Anglo-Saxon word “icio” (pronounced icky-o, not ishi-o), which means “from the bottom of,” so when playing cards if the dealer were found to be cheating he would have to provide the players with a snack, or be hanged.

Small, individual cakes, such as cupcakes, were the preferred snack offering, since they could be prepared quickly with readily available ingredients. Cupcakes, therefore, became inextricably aligned with the word delicious, so much so that the two words became indistinguishable until the early 1500’s, when fruit pies became popular, due, of course, to the invention of Crisco, and the resultant explosion in dual-crust baking. Pie is, as everyone knows, superior to cake (yes, even the delicious cupcake, frosted or no), so the term delicious was wrenched away from its relationship to cupcakes, and used once more as a standalone modifier.

So, if you’re not going to give a crap about something, don’t give a crap about something other than cupcakes.




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A fun bit of fictitious etymology!

That could be a game; good on ya.

 

[go_deep]

Like it or not, when I'm talking to someone who isn't a hunter about hunting, I tell them I'm going grocery shopping. It's opened up a lot of good conversations about hunting being organic all natural meat and not some random chit at the grocery store.

 

[Reburn]

You mean pedantic.

;-)

he meant Neurotic

 

[Wyobohunter]

he meant Neurotic

It was a self deprecating joke. @GSPHUNTER got it.

 

[Sinistram]

Simple. Just reverse the header drive. Then pick up the parts.

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That's nowhere near as gory as I would have expected. Funny he hit it with a harvester given the topic of this thread. I would hope we could all agree that deer was most certainly KILLED and not harvested.

 

[Yoder]

If you shoot deer with names inside of a fence, you harvest them.

 

[tenth1]

I'm against political correctness and am anti-"woke" in the recent terminology. "Harvesting" a critter to eat is not one of my focuses.

 

[Backyard]

That's nowhere near as gory as I would have expected. Funny he hit it with a harvester given the topic of this thread. I would hope we could all agree that deer was most certainly KILLED and not harvested.

I never asked him what actually killed it. ie severed artery etc. or if he dispatched it himself. It did end up losing all its legs at the knees tho.


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[GSPHUNTER]

I like that, I neither killed or harvested animal. I dispatched it by blowing out both lungs with my .300 winmag.

 

[Pharmseller]

If you shoot deer with names inside of a fence, you harvest them.

I quit naming them, though, because it bothered me when I’d find one dead. I lost Dynamite and Scout, fraternal twins, to HLS a few years ago. Scout died under the ponderosa in the front yard and Dynamite died in my garage.





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[Idaboy]

Those are great points...it super interesting how things swing.

The earth is getting hotter but that bothers people too, so we we have to say "it's changing".....

Kill, killed, tagged, loaded the freezer, harvested, caught, got my limit.....say whatever you want.

 

[49ereric]

I am a hunter gatherer like my ancestors. In order to gather meat I have to kill it usually although I also gather road kill when fresh.

 

[grappling_hook]

There's a hilarious a capella/barbershop song by Da Vinci's Notebook featuring a line in the lyrics "my meat is murder." I won't post it here, but it's worth a google search and then a listen on Youtube. Bonus points if you start playing it for someone without telling them the title first

 

[rogerdoger]

I did a quick read through this thread and it makes me laugh. People use the term harvest for hunting as it is part of the definition of “harvest” in the dictionary.

Definition of HARVEST

the season for gathering in agricultural crops; the act or process of gathering in a crop; a mature crop (as of grain or fruit) : yield… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Choose wisely about the things that bother you, or all things will.

 

[prm]

Harvest isn’t my favorite, but it’s far less annoying to me than “running” a pack.

 

[Coopsdaddy]

Kill,smoke,drop,hammer etc.
I have the upmost respect for taking the life of something and then enjoying it in the end of my fork.
I harvest my vegetables!

 

[Boarmaster]

It doesn't bother me what any hunter wants to call it. But we got these terms in an effort to make others more comfortable with what we do thinking that would satisfy them and they might leave us alone. I think we see now that is not going to happen. They are going to keep coming at us. So its not as much what we call it that bothers me it's why we feel we need to call it something less than killing.

 

[Danny Hoey]

Never sweat the "small stuff" Justin.

^^^Good book. More people should give it a read.