A Long PSA Post - Kuiu Peloton 97 vs Black Diamond Whippet - Does your med kit suck?

ChrisAU

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Going to call this season the season of learning. After rattle snake encounters in WY, truck setup failures, and now this I am more convinced than ever that I’ll never stop learning big lessons at any point in my life.

So this past Friday night I hastily made a decision to backpack into a swamp the next morning to hunt. By far my favorite way to whitetail hunt. I transition my stuff from my day pack to my Exo K4, put my waders in the truck, then dream about the big bucks I’ll kill.

The next morning I’m to my parking spot earlier than ever. The walk in goes super smooth, I find my spot where I cross the Choctawhatchee river in waders easier than I ever have. From my truck to the bank is around 1/2 a mile, but the last few hundred yards you couldn’t even drive an ATV in. There is literally nowhere within a mile of me that a helicopter could land and someone could get to me without swimming. I cross the river then begin walking south along its bank.

I make it a few hundred yards and come to a new tree that has fallen in the river, blocking my usual path.

My trekking pole of choice in the swamp is a Black Diamond Whippet. It’s excellent to hook onto tree roots on creek banks for leverage to get up them. I use it to start beating a path through the briars to get around the tree further up the bank. It’s working well. I’m holding it at the grip, using the end of it to break dead vines.

I lost the Whippet tip cover long ago. Always conscious to keep the point down, I must’ve gotten lazy and let it turn in my hand. After about the 5th whack with it, it feels like it is stuck in the brush. I quickly realize that isn’t the case - the end is free.

I look down, it’s stuck in my shirt sleeve! But why isn’t it moving? Dread sets in. It’s firmly embedded in my arm. I’d later learn over two serrations deep on the blade. It won’t come out. I can’t feel a thing, it was surreal.

My hem of my glove makes it look like it’s much closer to my wrist than it wound up being. I think how stupid am I if this is why I never see my daughter again, standing on the bank of a river in the dark, where it would take a first responder an hour or more to get to me, with a blade buried in my arm. All for a deer.

I can’t get my pack off easily. Or waders. Or get to anything to wrap my arm. My right arm is essentially 5-6 feet long now and my hand is useless. Furthermore I remember that I never transferred my medical kit from my day pack to my K4.

I text my hunting partners, who were already aware of my plan that morning. I tell them I’ve embedded my trekking pole in my arm, I’m about to pull it out and make a run for the truck, and if they haven’t heard from me in 20 minutes that I need serious help.

I set the tip of pole on the ground. The plan once removed from my arm is to rip my pack off and pull out a shirt that is in it to wrap my arm if it starts spraying. If it’s an oozing slowish bleed I’ll grab it with my left hand and start my walk. But I’ll have to use the pole and my good arm crossing the river in the dark regardless.

I take my left heel and kick down on the middle of the pole. It comes out, blood is dripping but no spray. Off to the truck I go.

I get to the truck half an hour later, leaving an easy to follow blood trail the whole way. I get my kit out of my day pack, and realize I’d scavenged all the tape for various things over the years. Hunting buddy pulls up, he also has nothing. I wind up putting McDonald’s napkins on it tied off using flagging tape.

All the gear, all the weapons, optics, outfitted new truck, and here I am in a situation that could’ve easily been much worse and I’m using McDonald’s napkins as a bandage.

I get to the landowners home and they have proper kit. Lot of betadine rinses, gauze, and tape later it has stopped bleeding and still doesn’t hurt. It’s still very early in the morning, none of the local doctors are open yet, and my wife and daughter will be asleep a couple more hours, and I’m still not sure how to explain how dumb I had been to them. So I head back in. Followed my blood trail back. Shot a coyote that was harassing a couple does, but mostly spent the morning thanking Jesus. I knew it could have been much, much worse.

When I get out I head home, change clothes and head to the doc. Tetanus shot, antibiotics, and some glue and steristrips later I’m on my way. I was given the option of stitches and should have taken it, because of course the next day I opened it up a bit while climbing a tree. Oh well, I’ll have the scar to remind me. Still haven’t felt a bit of pain. Doc tells me any farther towards my hand or towards either side of my arm even just 1/4” may have been deadly. Essentially got nothing but meat.

Ordered tons of stuff the last few days to have dedicated medical kits in my truck, both packs, and even my wife’s car now. In October I spent a week in Wyoming wandering around the backcountry with a crap first aid kit. Just unbelievable to me now. I had a tourniquet and quick clot in my kit but not the first piece of tape or gauze. Oh and I ordered 5 of the tip covers from Black Diamond. Will keep them in my pack to replace them as I lose them.

Of note, even though that blade went 3/4” or so into my arm in a cut about that width, it took the Peloton 97 in with it! Didn’t leave a mark on it. Wild!

Anyway, check your kits and keep them on you. Pray to God, but also don’t be stupid like me!

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I am in the process of updating my med kit but I thought I would share something that I put together for my new K4 pack. I was looking at the single row molle on the opposite side of my nalgene holder and thought it would be a good spot for a trauma kit. I found a marsupial gear pouch that uses a single molle mount and put a couple chest seals, two quick clot gauze, and a Rats tourniquet in it. Always there and easy to get to. Sent my idea to Exo and am hoping they will make a pouch for that area and promote the idea. Too many people don't have what they need in an emergency with them in the field.
 

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Damn, I used to ski with a whippet but the fear that I might fall on it and impale myself made me stop using it. This makes me realizes my fears were not unfounded

Heal up man, glad youre alright!
 
Glad you're mostly ok. That pole looks like a guaranteed injury given enough time and use.

I've moved my blood stoppers to my bino harness to make sure they're always readily available. TQ, quick clot gauze, zip stitches all right there and handy to stop a bleed right now. What are you hauling in your improved first aid kits?
 
Thanks for sharing your story. I didn't quite pick up the part of how you actually hit yourself on there on the arm with the Whippet though. I guess I'm not visualizing well this morning.

Mark
 
Glad you're mostly ok. That pole looks like a guaranteed injury given enough time and use.

I've moved my blood stoppers to my bino harness to make sure they're always readily available. TQ, quick clot gauze, zip stitches all right there and handy to stop a bleed right now. What are you hauling in your improved first aid kits?

Great idea to put some bare necessities in the bino harness. Will have to play with that.

Improving mine wasn’t hard, just adding tape and gauze, some betadine/iodide wipes, blood clotting powder, Israeli bandage. Pepto bismol pills and contact wetting drops weren’t going to do me much good if I did have my kit on me. I’m not sure I’d have had the skill to apply my tourniquet left handed. I’ll be improving my kit by educating myself more as well.
 
Thanks for sharing your story. I didn't quite pick up the part of how you actually hit yourself on there on the arm with the Whippet though. I guess I'm not visualizing well this morning.

Mark

It’s hard to visualize, it took a great amount of skill lol. Basically the pic below is more or less the entry position, with some angles unseen caused by the swing itself, grip less merino gloves, resistance on the end of pole by the brush, etc. I believe the entry wound was more perpendicular to the apparent resulting wound; the apparent direction of the wound was more defined by ripping it out I believe.

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Wow! A lot to process here, but the main point is you got shit lucky. I figure everyone gets one of those "if you get me outta this I'll never do it again" moments in life.

I always make sure to have complete and prepped med supplies with me, but the subsequent suggestion about having bleed control in your bino harness is one I'm going to steal. I might not be able to get the full kit out of my pack in time.
 
I read the story then looked at the pics. Was a bit surprised at the seemingly minor wound. Not at all what I visualized for a wound that would leave a blood trail.
But yeah carry a decent med kit.
Wrap some electrical tape and duck tape around your trekking pole handles. Then you’ll have it handy.
 
Dang. That's a good point about not being able to take your pack off to access your med kit even if you had it with you.

I move my med kit around to various packs depending on what I'm doing. One thing I started doing since its in slightly different locations depending on the particular pack is I attached velcro to all of my packs and I place a reflective med kit patch over the kit's location -might be in a lid in one pack set up, an exterior pocket on another, or in the main body of the bag on the left side. Moving the velcro patch around insures that I also move the med kit and also informs my partner or 3rd party where my kit is.
 
just to be clear, while its a crazy injury, im sure it was scary and i would imagine at some point painful, you understand that is not a tq worthy bleed right?

tq are last aid not first aid
bandages, pressue, elevation of injury, should all be considered first

Absolutely. Had it been closer to my wrist like I initially thought it was, and removing the blade caused profuse bleeding, maybe then? But no doubt, my level of knowledge right now is simply stuff it with gauze and wrap it for pressure and get to help. However I was unable to do that, even once I reached my truck, with anything other than an article of clothing. Just woefully unprepared. I probably research more about hunting gear in a week than I have on first aid in my life.
 
I have one of these in all of my vehicles. I just add chest seals. I also carry first aid in my hunting pack and snowmobile pack but these are a little bulky to put in a pack.
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oof... I stitched up a guy with a cut almost identical to that. It is amazing the inventive ways we can think of to hurt ourselves... be careful dude..
 
I have one of these in all of my vehicles. I just add chest seals. I also carry first aid in my hunting pack and snowmobile pack but these are a little bulky to put in a pack.
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I have the same exact med kit in my truck as well as in my fiancé's car, also with added chest seals + sting relief. I did upgrade the tourniquets and attached them to the exterior with a pair of rubber gloves.
 
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