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[Gargoyle]

Me too. That’s why I do it.

I also found that shooting those dialed in loads in the cold went to crap in the heat. Blue marker loads and red marker loads! LOL

 

[N2TRKYS]

I take it you skipped over the context clarification? I mean, with a post like this, it's quite evident. I can explain things for you, I can't comprehend them for you, however.

In all fairness, you didn’t put your “clarification “ in the post that you suggest that it took you 150 rounds to find a load cause it wasn’t hammer bullets.

 

[N2TRKYS]

I also found that shooting those dialed in loads in the cold went to crap in the heat. Blue marker loads and red marker loads! LOL

I guess you don’t have good reading comprehension either. I said I don’t shoot in the summer.

 

[Gargoyle]

I guess you don’t have good reading comprehension either. I said I don’t shoot in the summer.

Oh I wasn't talking about you. I was just sharing my experiences because I do shoot in the Summer. A lot actually. I see this pattern now, you just want to be abrasive and argue. Not much value I have for that, so good luck to you in your endeavors to knock the souls out of them critters, no matter what the temp! LOL

 

[Gargoyle]

In all fairness, you didn’t put your “clarification “ in the post that you suggest that it took you 150 rounds to find a load cause it wasn’t hammer bullets.

Once again, you are correct on your point of obviousness. That clarification was made later as the thread developed.

 

[Harvey_NW]

You also found that without testing there is no need for testing?

By testing I've found that it doesn't matter, and I can't prove it makes any repeatable difference. As I stated in my original comment, many like to claim that they've tuned loads with testing seating depth, but have no proof. So, do you have any proof?

 

[Gargoyle]

By testing I've found that it doesn't matter, and I can't prove it makes any repeatable difference. As I stated in my original comment, many like to claim that they've tuned loads with testing seating depth, but have no proof. So, do you have any proof?

I do. My load notes. I’ll see if I can find some that show the contrast between two seating depth of same bullet. Off top of my head, a 137gr HH load in 308 Win. I tested a COAL of 2.840 vs 2.760”. I saw the groups shrink considerably when seated to the 2.840. Another was 168gr Amax. Loaded jam + was lights out. Moving to 2.800” ho hum.

Just this past week loaded 300WM with 137HH. Two seating depths. 3.480 vs 3.375. The 3.480 gave some ridiculous ES/SD had fliers. The 3.375 was money!

I’m not home this weekend because of holidays and I don’t keep a copy of my load notes in my pocket. So, I’ll need to report back.

 

[bmart2622]

With comments like this, I find it extremely difficult to give any merit to your experiences.

I spit coffee out on that one!!!!

 

[MHWASH]

I take it you skipped over the context clarification? I mean, with a post like this, it's quite evident. I can explain things for you, but I can't comprehend them for you, however.

I don't need help comprehending B.S.
Having all bullets touch with temperature swings of 20-30 degrees are things benchrest shooters dream of, yet you're trying to convince us that you do this with hunting bullets and hunting rifles.

 

[bmart2622]

I don't need help comprehending B.S.
Having all bullets touch with temperature swings of 20-30 degrees are things benchrest shooters dream of, yet you're trying to convince us that you do this with hunting bullets and hunting rifles.

Seems like it would be pretty easy to prove right??

 

[Gargoyle]

I don't need help comprehending B.S.
Having all bullets touch with temperature swings of 20-30 degrees are things benchrest shooters dream of, yet you're trying to convince us that you do this with hunting bullets and hunting rifles.

Don’t project your hand loading and shooting inadequacies on me. Reference post 47 since you seem to have a hard time keeping up.

Edited: Oh, you are so in luck. Forgot I had this on my phone. A superimposed multi-group test of the latest load development! The shot counts are higher now. But alas: Different charge weights & temps.

Oh that 7977 and N165 showing great promise! A penny covers those groups. A dime all but the N570. It got a little squirrelly on me. It could have been the various shooting platforms I used too. FML!

 

[Gargoyle]

Seems like it would be pretty easy to prove right??

It isn’t hard. Works been done. Post 47.

BTW, do you have anything to offer the OP, or you just like post humping others? It’s rhetorical.

 

[bmart2622]

It isn’t hard. Works been done. Post 47.

BTW, do you have anything to offer the OP, or you just like post humping others? It’s rhetorical.

Thats funny coming from you!!! Especially since I was the 1st one to offer advice and youre the one who jumped in here calling people out and telling me Im wrong

 

[bmart2622]

Don’t project your hand loading and shooting inadequacies on me. Reference post 47 since you seem to have a hard time keeping up.

Edited: Oh, you are so in luck. Forgot I had this on my phone. A superimposed multi-group test of the latest load development! The shot counts are higher now. But alas: Different charge weights & temps.
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Oh that 7977 and N165 showing great promise! A penny covers those groups. A dime all but the N570. It got a little squirrelly on me. It could have been the various shooting platforms I used too. FML!

Looks like dots drawn with a sharpie!!!

 

[Gargoyle]

Looks like dots drawn with a sharpie!!!

You’re a sharpie one! That’s exactly what they are! Each dot representing a shot. Do you have some other definition or understanding of “superimposed” you need need to get sorted out?

 

[Gargoyle]

Looks like dots drawn with a sharpie!!!

Hey! Now this is pen ink written on paper!

I’m of the impression I’ve much more experimenter’s curiosity than you, so check this out.

So the thought hit me about testing ammo when ammo temp was allowed to acclimatize to ambient temp. You know, to alleviate the false reads from air conditioning cooling the ammo in the armory and in the truck cab while enroute to the range. This is only the data set from the matched test. Check the one,4th down in N165 that had air conditioner still effecting it!

PowderTemp/MV/SD/temp matched or not:

 

[bmart2622]

You’re a sharpie one! That’s exactly what they are! Each dot representing a shot. Do you have some other definition or understanding of “superimposed” you need need to get sorted out?

Show the target!!!! Anyone can draw cirlces on a piece of paper!!

 

[Gargoyle]

Show the target!!!! Anyone can draw cirlces on a piece of paper!!

Targets. Remember the superimposed concept you couldn’t understand? To have a superimposed result the targets must be plural/multiple.

Oh golly shucks gee, Daggum it. You’re trolling me! No matter how much further I embarrass you, you are going to deny all of evidence presented, even though you will continue to ask for more and more.

 

[bmart2622]

Targets. Remember the superimposed concept you couldn’t understand? To have a superimposed result the targets must be plural/multiple.

Oh golly shucks gee, Daggum it. You’re trolling me! No matter how much further I embarrass you, you are going to deny all of vidence presented, even though you will continue to ask for more and more.

Ok show the targets then, not hand drawn pictures. This time post some were ALL the shots are touching like you cliam

 

[Ryan Avery]

There are several of you that need to read the rules.