7mm-08 to .243 or .308?

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"are you driving them or shooting them ?"
I guess you didnt get my reference to bullet efficiency. Point is, a 25-06 is not a step up ballistically from a .243.
 
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"are you driving them or shooting them ?"
I guess you didnt get my reference to bullet efficiency. Point is, a 25-06 is not a step up ballistically from a .243.
OH yes it is …. don't care about "mpg" or any number crunching you wish to do, IF you had ever compared them side by side in the field you would quickly enough understand I have, although my 243 AI is a stellar longrange varmint and predator round if I want to reach out and touch a speedgoat or deer I'll always grab the 25.06 and a box of my 110gr Accubond handloads
 

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A 110gr .257 bullet can not and will not hang with a 110gr .243 bullet. Out to 400yds, it doesn't matter. Then again, out to 400yds...may as well just stick with the 7mm-08 and 120gr bullets.

Irrelevant anyways. He can't run 25-06 through a short action.
 

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the only difference is the caliber. They are both based on a .308 necked down to either .24 caliber for the .243 or .284 caliber for the 7mm08. Since the 7mm is a bigger caliber you can get it in a heavier bullet and slightly more power but I doubt if you shot a deer with either one they could tell the difference. They are both great medium sized game rounds. If you wanted my 2 cents I would say consider their parent cartridge the .308, it has very mild recoil and is a little more versatile then either of them.
 

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the only difference is the caliber. They are both based on a .308 necked down to either .24 caliber for the .243 or .284 caliber for the 7mm08. Since the 7mm is a bigger caliber you can get it in a heavier bullet and slightly more power but I doubt if you shot a deer with either one they could tell the difference. They are both great medium sized game rounds. If you wanted my 2 cents I would say consider their parent cartridge the .308, it has very mild recoil and is a little more versatile then either of them.
 

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Rebarrel to 6 creed. There’s tons of options for ammo, will be much funner and easier to shoot than the others and that’s what kids need. Get a 7.5 twist and shoot the 105 Berger’s if you reload. Deer antelope and close in elk no problem. My PRS rifles is a straight 243 win and my 15 year old daughter loves to shoot steel way out there. It’s this gun that got her interested in actually hunting, but only if she can use “that rifle”. Put it in an adjustable length of pull xlr chassis and only let them shoot it with a muzzle break and good ear pro, they will enjoy it and it will be much more efficient than trying to reduce 308 loads. Jmo
 

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I agree. Keep kids and girls in a 6mm caliber. 243 or 6mm creed. Keep the rifle weight up and good recoil pad and they wont need a muzzle brake.
 

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I don’t think the 6 creed is magic. It just has less recoil, muzzle blast, powder burned and nearly the factory options as the 6.5. Look at PRS where the game is recoil management, almost every high level competitor is shooting a 6mm of some flavor and many are going down to dashers bra’s and br’s. For kids, especially girls, recoil and muzzle blast should be the single biggest consideration IMO. Gun fit second.
 
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I don’t think the 6 creed is magic. It just has less recoil, muzzle blast, powder burned and nearly the factory options as the 6.5. Look at PRS where the game is recoil management, almost every high level competitor is shooting a 6mm of some flavor and many are going down to dashers bra’s and br’s. For kids, especially girls, recoil and muzzle blast should be the single biggest consideration IMO. Gun fit second.
OP started this thread for HUNTING cartridge …. 6.5 CM is as good a "starter" round as your gonna find, I know that from experience and 6mm pales in comparison available projectiles are concerned
 

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Exactly and he said he had a 280 ai already which is miles better than a 6.5 creedmoor as far as hunting rounds are concerned. 6mm is more than adequate for deer sized game and fills the void much better than a .264. Do you really think 6.5 130-140 class projectiles going 2800 FPS are much better than 100-115 class bullet going 3000 plus? He also said he had kids which I covered in depth. I guess no one should use a 6mm for hunting maybe the inferior projectiles will just bounce off their hide? I don’t know how anything got killed before the 6.5 creedmoor was around.
 
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I wouldn't rebarrel. I would buy a new 243 in a youth model and shoot it. Spend 400 on a Mossberg Patriot, Ruger american, or 600 on a Tikka compact and then you can have what you want and keep the 7mm08 as is. By the time you buy a new barrel you will basically be paying close to half or 3/4 the cost of a new gun anyways.
 
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Huge 7mm-08 fan here. I think it's nearly the perfect hunting caliber. I've gone around and around on calibers and always arrive back where I started. Before 7mm-08's I shot a 7x57 Mauser. LOL If it ain't broke, why fix it?
 
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I'll add that there isn't much a .243 can do that a 120 grain 7mm bullet at 3000K can't do, and there isn't much a .308 can do that a 162 grain 7mm bullet at 2700 can't do. For medium to even elk-sized game, that range is just incredibly useful while still being very easy to shoot.
 
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