Shooting 80 is not that bad but you really have to be honest with yourself. I have no doubt a ton of guys can draw it in their backyard but when your on the 4th day of a trip eating crap food, maybe fatigued from everything a backpack trip puts on you. Then you have to kneel down in some wet grass, or at an off angle on some rocks and pull it back smooth and without drawing attention it can be a whole different story. If you have to sky draw.. To heavy. If you get fatigued after 20-25 shots.. To heavy. If you cannot draw it sitting in a chair keeping your shoulders parallel to the ground.. Yep to heavy. For me the 70 pound range is plenty for the elk and bear that I chase, unless I was going to Africa or somewhere I wouldn't shoot 80 again, 70's plenty and I can shoot it year round 3d, spots etc. I also had a hard time getting the Foc I wanted yet keepin the spine correct.