6mm /.243 hunting success on Big Game

Kill 4 with Tikka 6 Creed and 115 Berger.

Large Doe.
Yardage: 347.
Impact Velocity: Roughly 2,170.
Shot Position: Standing supported (large round hay bale).
Distance travelled After Hit: 40 yards into the woods. Another 30ish yards and crashed into a tree.
Impact Location: Entered left scapula. Exited between 2nd and 3rd rib. Exited the hide. Much narrower wound than the first 3.
 
Kill 4 with Tikka 6 Creed and 115 Berger.

Large Doe.
Yardage: 347.
Impact Velocity: Roughly 2,170.
Shot Position: Standing supported (large round hay bale).
Distance travelled After Hit: 40 yards into the woods. Another 30ish yards and crashed into a tree.
Impact Location: Entered left scapula. Exited between 2nd and 3rd rib. Exited the hide. Much narrower wound than the first 3.
I think you’re the only one I know using the 115 Berger. I could have missed it in the thread
 
I think you’re the only one I know using the 115 Berger. I could have missed it in the thread
It’s a recent development for me. Partially for me and partially for a friend that works at Berger.

They seem inherently more accurate and less finicky shooting wise than the 103s and 108s from hornady so far. You give up some killing range on paper.

Long range bullet flight has been true so far out to around 900 yards, nothing weird seen there yet. More to come when I’m back from hunts.

Need a lot more animals shot before I make any assumptions. First three were ideal wounds although a bit short necked. The last one was nothing to write home about but animal was dead.
 
Need a lot more animals shot before I make any assumptions. First three were ideal wounds although a bit short necked. The last one was nothing to write home about but animal was dead.
When you say a bit short necked are you saying that you would prefer a longer distance to upset?
 
Couple to add, some good, one question mark at the edge of this load's effective range. There were some strange issues with the load and/or rifle that I haven't completely diagnosed yet, I'll probably update the 243 Improved thread once it's all sorted.
20" 243 Improved Tikka, reamed from a stock barrel. 115 NR DTAC 2900 FPS at the muzzle with 47.7 grains of H1000.

#1: Wife's antelope doe at 450. Half value ~20 mph gusty wind. Hit was about 3" left of ideal, through both scapulas. Antelope was almost exactly broadside, bedded. Stood up, turned, tried to follow the herd and only made it about 10 yards before tipping over. This bullet was a deep cut. Impact around 2300 fps.

Exit outside hide:
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Entrance under hide, onside shoulder
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Entrance side shoulder, back side:
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Exit side ribcage:
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#2: Buck antelope at 280, 5 mph wind. Bedded, ever so slightly quartered to. First hit was lower third behind shoulder, exited ~6" behind shoulder. Elongated 2.5" exit. One small jacket fragment was found under the hide.
Second shot, quartered to at same distance. Through shoulder, into stomach, bullet base fragment found under hide.
Lungs were destroyed, made a mess of the stomach. Total distance traveled was about 30 yards. These were standard cut DTACs, first ones I've used on game. Seem to behave the same. Impact velocity around 2525 fps


Lungs:
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Exit holes. Farther back one is the quartered-to follow up shot. The one nearer the shoulder is from the initial shot.
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Holes through the rib cage. Left side is the size of the cavity as the second, quartered-to shot exited the onside shoulder. Wound channel through the shoulder and scapula roughly matched that hole. Hole on the right is the exit from the first, bedded shot.
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#3: Raghorn bull elk. This is where things got strange. First shot was 825. Was hunting solo with a SWFA 3-9, really never saw a single impact aside from the hit. Even when shooting at this sidehill afterwards (open dry dirt) I couldn't observe a bullet impact. There were some issues like that on the antelope hunt as well, including a clean miss (on the same buck the day before) at 270 yards prone with a bipod and rear bag. After checking zero, the same issue occurred again on a big mule deer buck that left unscathed. Whatever the issue was, I only made one hit before the bull made it into the pines. It shattered the lower socket of the front shoulder and most of the bone between the lower leg bone and scapula. Permanent cavity in the muscle was 2.5" or larger with a baseball size or great bloodshot area. Didn't get a good picture, but there was basically no damage to the tissue under the shoulder. Bullet did not get through the shoulder. Strangely, I never did find the bullet, or even a fragment. Could have looked more carefully, but it was dark, cold, and I was in a hurry to get the bull broken down. Bull was broadside at the time of the shot, and no other wounds were observed in the area of the hit. When I got over there, the bull had bedded just inside the trees. Threaded one shot through the pines ~3" behind his jaw through the neck and he dropped. That bullet blew through bone and all and left a 2" exit.
I should have done a better job investigating, but my assumption was that the bullet would be lodged somewhere in the shoulder and would be found while butchering. Nothing was found while removing the bloodshot section. Impact would have been around 1875 fps, maybe that's beyond the capability of a bullet this size to break an elk shoulder socket at the very thickest point.

Exterior of entry side and shot location. This should have killed the bull if it made it through.

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Back side of shoulder. This view makes the shot look lower. There was no exit through the hide low, it was up where an exit would have been into the rib cage.
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A little bragging post on my wife. Killed her first game animal the other day, mature mule deer doe. 20" ruger m77 thats been changed up a little for her. Cut down, suppressed and shortened lop mcarbo spring and polished trigger at 2 lbs, shooting 95 gr fusions at around 2850ish.

Pretty tough go finding accessible deer on public land cause she's about 5 months pregnant and we were hauling a 2 and 4 year old along. Finally found a couple bedded does about 700 yards out in a cut field. Not much for cover. We ended up crawling the last 60 ish yards to a little rise where she could get a kneeling shot off the bipod. 180 yards, on the biggest one, bedded broadside. Made a perfect shot in about 20 mph head winds. The deer stood up and walked about 10 yards and tipped over about 4 seconds after the shot. Awesome memories!
Awesome! My wife shot her first animal last year. Great stuff
 
Kill 4 with Tikka 6 Creed and 115 Berger.

Large Doe.
Yardage: 347.
Impact Velocity: Roughly 2,170.
Shot Position: Standing supported (large round hay bale).
Distance travelled After Hit: 40 yards into the woods. Another 30ish yards and crashed into a tree.
Impact Location: Entered left scapula. Exited between 2nd and 3rd rib. Exited the hide. Much narrower wound than the first 3.
You might have posted it previously, but are you shooting 7 twist?
 
When you say a bit short necked are you saying that you would prefer a longer distance to upset?
I’d prefer a bit more elongation, yes, like the TMK or ELDX.

These behave a bit more like the ELDM so far BUT, still way too early to make sweeping statements.

Cow elk depredation in Wyoming and Idaho starting next week will be telling.
 
16” 7.5 Twist Preferred Taperless 810 Contour.

Hammer and it’s still settling in.
I really wish you’d said it was a 7 twist so I wouldn’t have to wonder about these in my 18” 7.5

Please reconsider


Edit- I guess looking at the BC’s on the 108 EH, I’m really not giving up much. Like .004 G7. I’d think the additional velocity on the 108 would cover that
 
I’d prefer a bit more elongation, yes, like the TMK or ELDX.

These behave a bit more like the ELDM so far BUT, still way too early to make sweeping statements.

Cow elk depredation in Wyoming and Idaho starting next week will be telling.
Be interested in your results. Steve sent me a handful to try in my 6 PRC.
 
I really wish you’d said it was a 7 twist so I wouldn’t have to wonder about these in my 18” 7.5

Please reconsider


Edit- I guess looking at the BC’s on the 108 EH, I’m really not giving up much. Like .004 G7. I’d think the additional velocity on the 108 would cover that
108s outperform the 115s on paper with hunting safe loads. Yes.
 
My son (10 years old) knocked over his first buck last week. Filled my tag via youth mentor program on a great coastie fork. Shooting the youth Tikka Superlight 8 twist 243 santa brought him. Kneeling, offhand frontal shot - drilled him with a 90 grain factory eldx at about 40 yards. Impact velocity about 2900fps.

Question: is anyone making factory heavies in 243? Like 100gr +?
My nephew filled his via his grandpas tag this year on a coastal fork.

Great program

Congrats to the young hunter and proud dad can’t wait until mine are hunting age
 
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