6.8 Western Brass

[wind gypsy]

I would be surprised if Hornady didn't hop on getting the 25 CM saami approved soon. Although it did take a while and Horizon Firearms to really push to get the 22 CM SAAMI approved. The .257 is another caliber that has been neglected. If Hornady jumped on it we would at least get a steady flow of high BC bullets for it.

I'm pretty sure it's already in the works and they are rumored to be working on a 25 cal ATIP bullet too. There is a thread about it on the hide.

If I go above 6mm for a hunting barrel anytime soon it'll likely be a 25 cal.

 

[Leaf Litter]

7 SAUM brass is so close in size to the western, I’m curious what people’s reservations are about using it? I don’t have a Western yet, but it’s only a matter of time before a used barrel pops up, so I’m preplanning.

I bought a box of 50 ADG 7SAUM brass and fire formed it for my 6.8 Western, it works great. My only complaint is having to fire form, otherwise it's worlds better than Winchester brass. And if we're being honest, the fire forming loads shot as well as any finished loads I have in WW brass, so they're valuable to practice with. Just a few hundred FPS slower than I'd normally run with full fat loads.

 

[TaperPin]

I bought a box of 50 ADG 7SAUM brass and fire formed it for my 6.8 Western, it works great. My only complaint is having to fire form, otherwise it's worlds better than Winchester brass. And if we're being honest, the fire forming loads shot as well as any finished loads I have in WW brass, so they're valuable to practice with. Just a few hundred FPS slower than I'd normally run with full fat loads.

Nice!
There is a lot of 7 SAUM brass at a store locally so I will have to swing by and grab some.

 

[Leaf Litter]

Nice!
There is a lot of 7 SAUM brass at a store locally so I will have to swing by and grab some.

I only got a box because I'm waiting to reward ADG for running 6.8 Western. One man may not tip the scales a ton, but I can try.

 

[RockAndSage]

The magic marketing fairy dust:
1. Spec a cartridge/chamber with the same premises that competition shooters have been getting their custom chambers and wildcats done for years
2. Do it in the calibers with the best bullets available that people who shoot high volume actually want
3. Keep ammo on the shelves at reasonable prices

In general, 6.8 doesn't do anything better than 6.5 PRC but recoil more and make people think they have more "knockdown power" with an addition 20 grains and 0.013" of bullet. It IS a great design IMO, just kind of plagued by 0.277 bore and the companies that introduced it.

A 7 western would be a neat cartridge. Pretty dang close to a 7 SAUM though for reloaders/custom gun people.

Agree with all this, and would add one thing - a lot of people's perceptions of cartridge quality are not absolute, but relative. Had 6.8W come out in 1971, it would be a legendary cartridge, with all the bullet weights you could ask for, and would be a benchmark round that others are judged against.

In absolute terms, it's an amazing cartridge.

In relative terms? Compared to other modernized and well-supported offerings?

Kinda meh.

And that's kinda sad.

 

[RockAndSage]

In case anyone's looking for 6.8 Western brass at the moment, this got emailed to me a few days ago:

SALE PRICE TODAY ONLY Winchester Ammo WSC68WU Unprimed Cases 6.8 Western Rifle Brass/ 50 Per Bag

Order Winchester WSC68WU Reloading Component 020892634367 SELLING FAST!

vizardsgunsandammo.com

 

[SAUMan]

Am I correct in assuming that I just neck size the 7 SAUM case and fire it in 6.8 chamber?

 

[jgraff08]

Ya im still on the fence about this brass issue but that's the idea I got some 7saum remington brass if you want to try it first I'll sell ya

 

[Leaf Litter]

Am I correct in assuming that I just neck size the 7 SAUM case and fire it in 6.8 chamber?

That may work. I went as far as to neck size with a 308 expander, create a false shoulder with a sizing die, and then load for fire forming

 

[SAUMan]

Ya im still on the fence about this brass issue but that's the idea I got some 7saum remington brass if you want to try it first I'll sell ya

I'll try most anything ONCE! I have a bit of ADG around. Got a buddy that built a new 7 SAUM and only bought 1 box of brass at the time. Knowing how he likes to ladder test and wring every last .001" out of his group sizes, I knew he'd be in a panic for more and then there would be none. I grabbed him some when I saw it come available waiting for him to complain about not having any for hunting. Well, he lost his honey hole spot and now has pretty much lost interest. I thought about building one myself, but I have a 6.5 and a .300 recently built. I thought this Browning SPR might be ideal for me.

 

[jgraff08]

I'll try most anything ONCE! I have a bit of ADG around. Got a buddy that built a new 7 SAUM and only bought 1 box of brass at the time. Knowing how he likes to ladder test and wring every last .001" out of his group sizes, I knew he'd be in a panic for more and then there would be none. I grabbed him some when I saw it come available waiting for him to complain about not having any for hunting. Well, he lost his honey hole spot and now has pretty much lost interest. I thought about building one myself, but I have a 6.5 and a .300 recently built. I thought this Browning SPR might be ideal for me.

How did he lose the spot

 

[SAUMan]

How did he lose the spot

The farmer who owned the land leased it out and the deal was contingent on the lease coming with exclusive hunting rights. My buddy had been helping thin the herd for crop predation purposes. Didn't have a legal lease or anything.

 

[gerry35]

For those of you in Canada Nechako Outdoors in Vanderhoof has Winchester 6.8 Western brass in stock right now. Get them before they sell out.

 

[Leaf Litter]

I just ordered some ADG brass in 6.8 Western today from blue collar reloading. I'm anxious to get out and compare it to Winchester reloading brass and nickel plated brass as well as ADG 7SAUM brass converted to 6.8 W.

First I've heard of it available for sale anywhere.

 

[Lou270]

I ordered some 6.8W ADG from Raven Rocks too

Lou

 

[Raghornklr]

I ordered some 6.8W ADG from Raven Rocks too

Lou

Shows sold out now

 

[Lou270]

Blue collar has some too

 

[alpinewanderer]

In case you didn’t get some of the early release ADG 6.8 Western brass from Raven Rocks or Blue Collar before they sold out, more is on its way to other retailers.

From what I understand J&A Outdoors, Unknown Munitions, and Reloading International are getting an allotment as well. Keep an eye on those sellers in the coming days or week.

 

[gerry35]

In case you didn’t get some of the early release ADG 6.8 Western brass from Raven Rocks or Blue Collar before they sold out, more is on its way to other retailers.

From what I understand J&A Outdoors, Unknown Munitions, and Reloading International are getting an allotment as well. Keep an eye on those sellers in the coming days or week.

We won't get them here in Canada until next spring. Hope you guys let us know how it's working for you. Heard lots of good things about ADG so this is excellent for the round and those who were waiting for good brass before buying a 6.8 Western rifle.

 

[TMD52]

i have been following this discussion from the side lines for a short time.
i am interested in the 6.8 western or 270 wsm . where i already have a 30 cal magnum i dont see a reason to have a 7mm at this point. personal opinion only. on a side note, today i got an email confirming Peterson is starting production january 2025 on the 25 creed. still waiting on their answer for the 6.8 western. i Have always loved the .277 caliber. and now there are heavier bullets. I am looking forward to building and working with one.