6.5 PRC 156 Berger Elite hunter load help

[Coueskiller43]

Hornady 2x. I’ve been stumped.

Hornady brass could be the culprit. Try ADG, Lapua or Peterson. If you are running a magnum primer try a just a large rifle primer.

 

[Coueskiller43]

Hmmm, I have 9 lbs of RE25 , but I orded the H 1000 already . Oh well , can never have too much powder .

H1000 worked well for me. The 570 should get you more velocity but will be harder on your barrel. Probably not worth the trade off.
Hard to beat the temp stability of H1000.

 

[CRJR45]

H1000 worked well for me. The 570 should get you more velocity but will be harder on your barrel. Probably not worth the trade off.
Hard to beat the temp stability of H1000.

I listened to you guys , picked up five lbs of H1000 and ADG brass from my LGS .
Can’t really do anything now, I’m waiting for surgery on my shooting shoulder.
Not sure what primer, 215 Feds or CCI 200 ?

 

[Coueskiller43]

I listened to you guys , picked up five lbs of H1000 and ADG brass from my LGS .
Can’t really do anything now, I’m waiting for surgery on my shooting shoulder.
Not sure what primer, 215 Feds or CCI 200 ?

Try the 200’s first.
215’s may pressure out early.
Good luck with the shoulder. I heard they’re the worst recovery.

 

[CRJR45]

Try the 200’s first.
215’s may pressure out early.
Good luck with the shoulder. I heard they’re the worst recovery.

Yeah , the surgeon made sure to impress upon me - It's gonna suck , LOL

 

[Run13]

Love the way mine shoots the h1000

 

[TradLife406]

My gun loved n570 and the 156 Berger. Right in that .30 mean radian with 20 shots. 2999.5 fps average.
I went .3 gr under max and seated to mag length.
Couldn't get enough speed with h1000 and retumbo shot horrible and slow.


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[SteveBurton]

I'm using N565, ADG brass and Fed 210Ms to push the 156s at 2890 fps out of a 24" barrel. I can go faster but that's a .3 MOA node. Just took a 6x6 bull at 635 yards for late rifle in AZ so it's working for me. The 215Ms pressured out early for me so try the 210s if you get the same result.

Take your time with shoulder surgery. The methods have come a long way since I had mine 20 years ago but it was a PITA with recovery for me. Probably a good 5-6 months till I could do normal things. On the other hand, my mother-in-law just had shoulder replacement surgery 2 months ago and she has been doing very well. Good luck with your recovery!

 

[CRJR45]

I'm using N565, ADG brass and Fed 210Ms to push the 156s at 2890 fps out of a 24" barrel. I can go faster but that's a .3 MOA node. Just took a 6x6 bull at 635 yards for late rifle in AZ so it's working for me. The 215Ms pressured out early for me so try the 210s if you get the same result.

Take your time with shoulder surgery. The methods have come a long way since I had mine 20 years ago but it was a PITA with recovery for me. Probably a good 5-6 months till I could do normal things. On the other hand, my mother-in-law just had shoulder replacement surgery 2 months ago and she has been doing very well. Good luck with your recovery!

Thank you !
Scheduled for 1- 30 , the surgeon sent me a video of the procedure in progress .It entails drilling through the bone to place an anchor , then he threads the tendon and pulls it thru the anchor , ... and thats as far as I got , the wife watched the rest , she thought it was interesting .

 

[SteveBurton]

That sounds similar to mine. I tore the labram and the long head of bicep tendon off of the humerous. The surgeon went in and screwed in something like an eyebolt. Lightly ground the bone to make it bleed and did the same to the end of the tendon. Reattached the tendon and basically tied something around my arm bone to hold the tendon against the injured area so it would heal there. I was in a sling for 7 weeks and then 3 months of PT. It was a rough journey but good as new after all of that.
The one tip I tell everyone getting shoulder surgery. If that is the arm you use to wipe your butt, start practicing with the other hand. LOL

 

[CRJR45]

That sounds similar to mine. I tore the labram and the long head of bicep tendon off of the humerous. The surgeon went in and screwed in something like an eyebolt. Lightly ground the bone to make it bleed and did the same to the end of the tendon. Reattached the tendon and basically tied something around my arm bone to hold the tendon against the injured area so it would heal there. I was in a sling for 7 weeks and then 3 months of PT. It was a rough journey but good as new after all of that.
The one tip I tell everyone getting shoulder surgery. If that is the arm you use to wipe your butt, start practicing with the other hand. LOL

I have two completely severed tendons and a torn labrum . But that was a part in my video , making the bone bleed .
I'm thinking a Bidet is in my future ?

 

[WyOwen]

Below is what worked for me- don’t start here!

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Seekins ph2 6.5 prc 24” Seekins barrel With 1016 rounds down the tube-

156eol, Lapua brass, wlrm, primer, 59.4 gr of Retumbo, loaded to almost max mag length- 3020fps

^same rifle with 55.5gr H1000 was shooting 156 @ 2910

^ same rifle with 55gr of H4831sc was shooting 156@ 2780

^same rifle as above with 56gr of Re25 shot 156 @ 2834
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Christensen Ridgline 18” barrel- 450 rounds down the tube- 156 Eol, ADG brass, wlrm primer, 59 gr or retumbo, Loaded to max mag length- 2909 fps -
Did not mess with any other bullets or powders with this rifle as I got everything I wanted with this load.

 

[JM151]

I emailed Berger for the load chart , just wanted to eliminate as much as I could as far as trial and error .

Thank you guys !

What did they give you for load data? From what I’ve seen they have changed their data and their current data is more “safe”. I’m running 59.2 of N565 in ADG brass. On other forums people loose their shit and say I’m exceeding books; however, Berger gave me data of 59.9 max.

 

[CRJR45]

What did they give you for load data? From what I’ve seen they have changed their data and their current data is more “safe”. I’m running 59.2 of N565 in ADG brass. On other forums people loose their shit and say I’m exceeding books; however, Berger gave me data of 59.9 max.

Here you go -

 

[JM151]

Here you go -


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Yeah that’s different from the one they first published. Do you think the one above is extremely safe? Heck when I did my pressure test I started off with 57 of N565. Here’s the data they gave me.

 

[waspocrew]

I’ve seen the Berger data (both versions). In Peterson brass, I’d be compressed at 59+ gr N565 with the 156. I was doing a pressure test last week and had very stiff bolt lift at 59 gr and the 140 hybrid seated 0.020” off the lands in my Seekins Element.

May need to see if there’s a difference using Lapua brass.

 

[CRJR45]

Yeah that’s different from the one they first published. Do you think the one above is extremely safe? Heck when I did my pressure test I started off with 57 of N565. Here’s the data they gave me. View attachment 813883

That's interesting . Me being a total newb to reloading have no answer , but would like to hear what others say ?

 

[JM151]

I’ve seen the Berger data (both versions). In Peterson brass, I’d be compressed at 59+ gr N565 with the 156. I was doing a pressure test last week and had very stiff bolt lift at 59 gr and the 140 hybrid seated 0.020” off the lands in my Seekins Element.

May need to see if there’s a difference using Lapua brass.

In ADG brass at 59.2 I still have room. If I shake the case I can hear the powder moving around. But according to one of their charts I would be something like 110% full. I am running something like 3.1” oal, can’t remember exactly.

 

[jzs0040]

156 Berger
ADG Brass/Fed 210M
58.0 grains of N565
Short Action but seated out longer than mag length (2.340" CBTO based on my tools)

2825 fps out of a 20" Benchmark CF barrel.

 

[Smithb9841]

Here you go -


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According to that I’m 2.4 grains over max with H4831sc. Seems like those numbers are in the don’t get sued category lol