6.5 creed vs 6.5 prc for anything from white tail to moose?

[rookieforever33]

The 6.5 will mirror your 270 in most ways. If you are happy with its performance you will be happy with the performance of the prc. You mentioned using accubond bullets which require more velocity than the eldm/eldx that alot of cm shooters use. The prc will probably shoot a little flatter in the ranges you speak of also. If you are afraid of losing anything go with the prc. A 20 inch barrel and suppressor will make it funner to shoot than the 270. There really isnt a wrong answer for your question. It which pros and cons categories are most important to you.

 

[bradmacmt]

I view the 6.5 PRC as a "modernized" 270 Win. As the above poster says, if you like the 270 you'll like the 6.5 PRC.

Were I younger and starting over I'd own an 18" suppressed 6.5 PRC and an 18" suppressed 22 CM

 

[coyotekilla]

I have both. Creed is cheaper for brass & ammo. My 1k yd local range doesn't like magnums hitting their steel inside 500, so creed wins there, creed suppresses better.

Prc has more thump, makes a better choice for hunting med to long range.

Thing to remember is that 4" of barrel makes the difference either way. A 20" prc is a 24" creed etc.

Ive taken whitetail with both, creed at 370, prc 200. The creed didn't exit with a 140 eldm, the prc did and painted the woods with a 135 berger hybrid. Not equal distances, but its a slow load in the prc (2750) so pretty equal.

 

[S-3 ranch]

Don’t sweat it , very little difference in a whole line of cartridges
6.5c. Though the .308win , 270 & prc being the two better flat ones imo
All said and done just pick one

 

[Mule3006Elk]

My approach: Pick your bullet then pick your cartridge.

I don't shoot highly fragmenting bullets on game. No question they work. Terminal performance is excellent.
Too much meat loss for my taste. I prefer bonded with high weight retention. I want velocity. I went with a 6.5 PRC. No regrets. I don't make choices based on recoil because if you practice recoil is a non issue imo.
Spotting shots, obviously lower recoil is the way to go when comparing any cartridges.

I have Lapua fired 5x no clickers. Not saying they won't happen but none yet. But, easy fix if I start to get them.

If you shoot fragmenting bullets combined with a lower mv CM you are good to go. Tons of positive feedback here and elsewhere on this combination.

I like velocity. Less wind deflection. Wind deflection is one variable we have the least control over. When I run cartridge/bullet/ballistic comparison wind deflection greatly influences my decision.

I reload. I don't step down then reload HOT to make it the next step up. My 2 cents.

 

[Koda_]

Since I’m wanting to go suppressed I’m going with a 20”. The 24” Seekins with a can seems like it would feel like carrying around a 10’ extension ladder

If your going with a shorter barrel so you can use a suppressor then go with the PRC for the additional velocity and flatter trajectory. A 20in suppressed 6.5prc would be a sweet do all hunting rifle.

 

[deltadukman]

I have a seekins element 20" barrel in 6.5 prc. I recently put together a tikka 6.5cm 20" barrel. For what you are gaining, and actual hunting distances, I'm looking forward to shooting the CM more. My Seekins 6.5 prc is super finicky and i have spent a lot of time and back and forth to get it borderline acceptable. You a little looking online, and there are a lot of people that have issues with Seekins PRC's.

 

[coyotekilla]

I have a seekins element 20" barrel in 6.5 prc. I recently put together a tikka 6.5cm 20" barrel. For what you are gaining, and actual hunting distances, I'm looking forward to shooting the CM more. My Seekins 6.5 prc is super finicky and i have spent a lot of time and back and forth to get it borderline acceptable. You a little looking online, and there are a lot of people that have issues with Seekins PRC's.

I was looking for a ph3 when I bought my tikka ace. Couldn't find a 24" seekins and I already had a 24" tikka upr. Kinda glad I went tikka after the fact, the tikka drives tacks

 

[Mule3006Elk]

I have a seekins element 20" barrel in 6.5 prc. I recently put together a tikka 6.5cm 20" barrel. For what you are gaining, and actual hunting distances, I'm looking forward to shooting the CM more. My Seekins 6.5 prc is super finicky and i have spent a lot of time and back and forth to get it borderline acceptable. You a little looking online, and there are a lot of people that have issues with Seekins PRC's.

LOL. I have a Seekins 6.5 PRC PH2. I had to send it back for some love. Now it's sub 3/4 MOA. If I were to do it again I would consider the Tikka and keep 1k in my pocket. I kept hearing about Tikka low velocity barrels and I didn't want CM range velocities in a PRC.

 

[deltadukman]

LOL. I have a Seekins 6.5 PRC PH2. I had to send it back for some love. Now it's sub 3/4 MOA. If I were to do it again I would consider the Tikka and keep 1k in my pocket. I kept hearing about Tikka low velocity barrels and I didn't want CM range velocities in a PRC.

Yeah mine has been re-barreled twice. Tons of ammo, removing scope, rings, etc. Even told me my TBAC suppressor may be bad, carbon ring, my shooting, ammo, etc. I chased the rabbit and spent a ton of time and money, and trouble. It still shoots ok, but not what I expected. Bought one of the Tikka superlight roughtech's on sale at Euro optic in 6.5cm to play with. Same scope, rings, etc. and within 20 rounds sighting it in, it shot one-hole 3 round groups with both factory eld-m and eld-x. Yeah, it's not the gun....However, their customer service is great, so not mad at that part. I did shoot a doe at 588 with it last week, so it's not terrible, but it was a lot of fuss to get there. Maybe I don't shoot that huge palm swell as good as a conventional stock. I'm going to play with it more this summer.

 

[coyotekilla]

LOL. I have a Seekins 6.5 PRC PH2. I had to send it back for some love. Now it's sub 3/4 MOA. If I were to do it again I would consider the Tikka and keep 1k in my pocket. I kept hearing about Tikka low velocity barrels and I didn't want CM range velocities in a PRC.

Mines by no means a race car. 2750 with new lapua brass, a berger 135hh, and 56.7 gr of retumbo. 24" ace game barrel. It does stack them (.2"). There is plenty of room to gas it up more, but season was upon me, and accuracy topped speed.

 

[TaperPin]

For whatever reason this is very hard for me to wrap my head around. But also I’m not really looking for “will creed work” as much as I’m looking for “is prc worth the extra recoil and reduced barrel life”

The PRS is a brother to the 270 in just about any way you could measure. If you were blindfolded you’d never be able to tell the difference.

Creedmoor performance is just a couple hundred yards closer than the PRs or 270. Nothing magical.

 

[North of 60]

If your going with a shorter barrel so you can use a suppressor then go with the PRC for the additional velocity and flatter trajectory. A 20in suppressed 6.5prc would be a sweet do all hunting rifle.

This is what I'm looking at currently.

 

[Pistolpete28]

I went from a 6.5 prc 24” barrel to a 6.5 creed suppressed with a 20” barrel. I was so set on needing the prc, and struggled with stepping down to the creed. I’m glad I did, I can spot most my impacts, and I honestly don’t care to shoot at game past 600 yards. I just ordered the tikka 243 win with the 8 twist barrel. I’m hoping to see comparable performance 6 creed. I almost got a 6 creed barrel from LS wild, but I will see how the 243 preforms.

 

[Speaks]

If your going with a shorter barrel so you can use a suppressor then go with the PRC for the additional velocity and flatter trajectory. A 20in suppressed 6.5prc would be a sweet do all hunting rifle.

I almost look at it the opposite.

I almost bought an 18 inch 6.5 PRC but then looking at the velocity numbers it added less than 100 yards of effective range over my 6CM. A 22 incher was a meaningful enough difference to not be totally duplicative. I know 22 is getting pretty long with a can though.

 

[North of 60]

I almost look at it the opposite.

I almost bought an 18 inch 6.5 PRC but then looking at the velocity numbers it added less than 100 yards of effective range over my 6CM. A 22 incher was a meaningful enough difference to not be totally duplicative. I know 22 is getting pretty long with a can though.

Good point...hoping an Airlock ZG will be a short enough can on a 20 or 22" PRC. That rifle will be for relatively open country, unlike my suppressed 16" SFAR which is my favorite short range woods rifle.

 

[264 MHC]

I went more or less right in the middle with a 6.5x55 improved-62 grains water vs the PRC at 68 and the Creed at 54. My hunting loads are 156 Berger at 2820 and 135 Berger at 3015 in a 21” Barreled Tikka. I have a target load with 140 RDFs at 2780, basically creed velocity. Gun is 8.25 lbs scoped.
The target load is considerably nicer to shoot unsuppressed from a bench. Adding a 12oz can makes the hunting loads feel like the target loads and the target loads pleasant.
I practice fundamentals with the target loads then verify my drops with the hunting Load I plan to use for the year. Handloading the PRC basically allows you to have both, albeit with more powder used in the larger cartridge but we’re talking pennies.

That said the extra capability of my wildcat over a Creed is academic for me since most everything is within 250 yds here. The deer I shot with the 156 at 145 yds piled up and didn’t take a step. The one before that with my 6mm Grendel 95 VLDH, 2820 FPS mv at 225 yds piled up and didn’t take a step. Same bullet Construction at the same velocity preformed pretty much the same with vastly different weights and diameters.

Definitely go 20 or less on the barrel whichever way you go.

 

[TradLife406]

I really liked my 6.5 PRC in a 24". But wanted a shorter barrel.
Sold it for a 22 and soon to be 20" 6 UM.
The 6.5 PRC looses a lot of speed when you start cutting the barrel down.

So now I run a 16" 22 Creed and the 6 UM.

To do it again I'd go with a 6 Creed in a 16-18" vs the PRC.

I hated my 6.5 Creed barrel I had on the Sig Cross. Lots of recoil and it was slow. I loaded it hot and could get 2700 out of the 18" barrel.

I really prefer keeping rounds around 3000 fps

 

[Speaks]

I really liked my 6.5 PRC in a 24". But wanted a shorter barrel.
Sold it for a 22 and soon to be 20" 6 UM.
The 6.5 PRC looses a lot of speed when you start cutting the barrel down.

So now I run a 16" 22 Creed and the 6 UM.

To do it again I'd go with a 6 Creed in a 16-18" vs the PRC.

I hated my 6.5 Creed barrel I had on the Sig Cross. Lots of recoil and it was slow. I loaded it hot and could get 2700 out of the 18" barrel.

I really prefer keeping rounds around 3000 fps

I came close to buying an 18 inch 6.5 PRC. I ran the numbers through AB and was surprised how small the difference in effective range was compared to my 18 inch 6cm. My 24 inch 6.5 added a real meaningful difference but chopping the barrel would wipe out nearly all of it (at least according to the AB chart). The particular gun was tricky for my budget anyway so I passed.

I keep going back to two concepts. The first being that something similar to 6UM or 6PRC is likely the better option if I want to extend the range out of a shorter barrel. And the 2nd being that while the idea of extending the effective range sounds good I cant actually take shots to the effective range of my 6CM yet so I should resist the temptation to build a gun that gives me more range that I am entirely unable to use when actually hunting.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

Since I’m wanting to go suppressed I’m going with a 20”. The 24” Seekins with a can seems like it would feel like carrying around a 10’ extension ladder

I have a 20” CTR that shoots 140 Bergers 0.5” all day/everyday with my reloads. I’m averaging 2686 fps. I typically hunt at 5000’ or higher. This combo reaches anything I’m going to shoot at. The only thing the PRC would do for me is cost me more in components and have a flatter trajectory to something I’d be able to shoot with the CM anyway. Plus, I’d get the added benefit of more recoil with the PRC.

I’d go 6.5 CM between the two you have listed.

I just ordered a 25 CM barrel and I’m very excited to see what it can do. From an efficiency standpoint, it beats both the 6.5 CM and the 6.5PRC.