6.5 creed magnum

[wesfromky]

I wonder if it is going to make it to straight wall cartridges? Getting a couple hundred "extra" fps out of a .350 would be a real benefit.

 

[Subs]

Based on what the gentleman from Federal says, a +peak for the straight wall crowd could get interesting. I have to hunt straight wall in my home state and I wonder how the lawmakers in those states would react to a +peak straight wall (350L, 400L, etc). I’m not a ballistics expert (or even that knowledgeable) but it seems like those calibers could benefit from the tech.

 

[Subs]

I wonder if it is going to make it to straight wall cartridges? Getting a couple hundred "extra" fps out of a .350 would be a real benefit.

Same thought at the same time!

 

[JohnJohnson]

What doesn’t make sense is he says it’s the most popular calibers form the last 15 or so years, yet no belted cases and no cases larger than 3006/308 head diameters, that narrows down fast. Now add to that they’re lookin at larger cals so that’s not much to choose from.

I think that's more about the technology apparently relying on a narrow powder column. I wouldn't anticipate it being used for magnum bolt face cartridges for a long time without a redesign.

 

[Xycod]

Yeah I think a 556 is already done if I’m not mistaken.

 

[Bluefish]

Based on what the gentleman from Federal says, a +peak for the straight wall crowd could get interesting. I have to hunt straight wall in my home state and I wonder how the lawmakers in those states would react to a +peak straight wall (350L, 400L, etc). I’m not a ballistics expert (or even that knowledgeable) but it seems like those calibers could benefit from the tech.

It will only work if the +peak doesn’t up bolt thrust. All the straight walls in AR’s are bolt thrust limited, not brass pressure limited. Almost every one already has a bolt only load with more pressure already.

I can see how an action that will handle a mag bolt face can handle more pressure on a 473 bolt face. The bolt thrust is pretty close between those two if case friction is similar between steel and brass.

 

[nm.otter]

if case friction is similar between steel and brass.

I'm not sure that is actually the case.

 

[Huntnpack 2]

I believe given the targeted civilian market use approach that Federal is using for the +peak
Cartridges that there’s opportunity to complete the process of introducing it to the full line of Creedmoor offerings, At some point & time.
The demand is there. And some of the engineering & marketing ground work of the 6.5 could be utilized in the other CM caliber offerings.
This new technology along with New barrel technology & the market growth of short barreled suppressed backcountry rifles paired with high bc c&c bullets & solids, fits well & can be utilized with the Creedmoor’s

“Success results when preparation meets opportunity”

Federal has done the prep work……

 

[43.6N]

Short Action Customs did a reloading die update for +Peak.

 

[Bluefish]

I'm not sure that is actually the case.

I am sure they are not the same, but so far I have not run across any data that shows how much of a difference exists. I have not found any actual bolt thrust data comparison, not that I have been actively looking.

I am intrigued as more pressure is basically free velocity, with no extra recoil. I found a load for 35 whelen that gives me equal recoil to a 358 jdj, but 150 fps faster. Also about 30% less recoil than a standard 35 whelen load. All because I have another 20k of pressure to play with.