30-06 vs 7 Rem Mag vs 270

[SDHNTR]

You are unhappy with the terminal performance of a 6.5 creed on whitetails? I can assure you, the problem is not your cartridge!

 

[Mule3006Elk]

270 or 30-06. Pick your pill for each and run the ballistics. Whichever deflects the wind the best would be my choice.

 

[Tmac]

I have a 280AI and it will stone kill a deer at the ranges you are describing. For whitetail deer, it is extra recoil with no real gain in killing power. Don't do it!

A 270 is a great compromise on plenty of power with without punishing recoil. They have been killing deer for over 100 years and will probably still be doing it in 2126.

Check the barrel twists on both. Decent chance the 280AI will have a faster twist and give you more bullet weight options. But you will have more recoil with the AI and heavier bullets.

 

[NorthIdahoDude]

Inside 400 yards? Whitetail deer only? You aren't really going to get any more 'authority' than your 6.5 Creed, IMHO. I've shot deer with 308's and 7x57's and 30-06's and 270 WSM's, and even 303 British'es (lots and lots of deer with yee old 303 Brit actually), and seen the shot with things as small as a 243.

None of them have any more authority than the others, with the sole exception being, if you can get impact velocity WAY up there, I have on a few of occasions seen a deer drop in its tracks that I didn't think was hit close enough to the CNS to do that. I've also seen different deer hit with the same make/model bullets from the same gun that ran hard for 100 yards with what, as far as I can tell, was near identical shot placement. And by velocity WAY up there, those were close range hits with 270 WSM (130 accubond, +/- 3350 FPS impact velocity), or in one case a close range hit with a 30-06 (150 Accubond, 3000 ish FPS impact velocity).

Anything shot in the CNS (brain/spine/etc) will drop in its tracks. Anything shot through center-mass of the chest cavity where the heart/lungs/aorta is will die in a few seconds in most cases. A lot can happen (or not happen) in a few seconds.

Wait a minute.. What am I saying... you want a new rifle, and here I am talking about things that would impeed that... by all means, get a new rifle! If I was buying, a 7mm-08 or the like is my flavor of choice, but not really any more horsepower than your 6.5 Creed. If you really do want more horsepower, 7Mag or 7 PRC would be my vote, as good high BC 7mm bullets will still be moving pretty fast, even out at 400 yards.

 

[Castle Rock]

I ticked the 270 before I read the post in detail
After that I would recommend a 22/250 or 243

 

[z987k]

6.5 prc "replaced" my .270. I love em both but there is a reason why i went with it for my new rifle.

Compare the recoil and ballistics on the eld-x with the prc vs the 280.

Theyre ballistically identical out to 500+. Recoil is identical. You just get 1 less in the magazine with a 6.5prc.

 

[coyotekilla]

I too hunt open ground in the east. My shots range from 150 to 700. I carry anything from a 223 to a 6.5 prc. Usually a 243, the prc only comes out for the long range stuff. 400 and in is 243, 6.5 grendel, 6.5 creed area. Deer don't require mags. Honestly, id get a 1:8 barreled 25-06 or 25prc. Fast, flat, and lethal on deer.

 

[user2026]

You are unhappy with the terminal performance of a 6.5 creed on whitetails? I can assure you, the problem is not your cartridge!

Not that I'm unhappy, but I want a new rifle anyway, and want something with a little more punch

 

[Steve300xcw]

I'd go big then. Maximum wallop. Nothing less than a 300rum

 

[PaPete90]

Is those caliber are your options then this 270 would be my choice. As per Brownings website this is the only fast twist 270 they list. Atleast it would give you different options if more than whitetail come up.


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[Steve300xcw]

Why do we need fast twist barrels for a 400yrd shot?

 

[PaPete90]

Why do we need fast twist barrels for a 400yrd shot?

Sigh….I said options Sir, just options


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[Castle Rock]

Why do we need fast twist barrels for a 400yrd shot?

Because there is no downside, and the higher rotational speed increases expansion and lethality.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Agreed on there not being a downside.

Still, this forum would have a guy believing that rounds outta a 1:10 are going to bounce off

 

[jeffpg]

Honestly, for what you are doing it really just does not matter... choose whatever cartridge you like the most.
Bullet placement is far more important than cartridge selection in this case, as it is in most every other.

I killed the 300 plus pound mule deer in my avatar with a Hornady 165 SST factory load launched from a .30-06 from a distance of 250 yards back in 2005. He was in full rut but never took another step after the shot.

 

[LightFoot]

Of the 3, .270 Win.
Browning does offer 280AI, which would be a great choice.
6.8 Western may be worth considering.


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