3.5 Ecoboost or not ?

[czgunner]

You only ever see the bad ones lol

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True, but oh so many. LOL.

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[lak2004]

You only ever see the bad ones lol

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That and probably poor maintenance on the owners part?

 

[Bzn_Hunter]

I’ve had 2 now. No issues. Solid maintenance and they last.


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[GunsAreFun]

You only ever see the bad ones lol

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That’s why it’s hard to judge this stuff based on anecdotes. Mechanics say they never see Tundras…well, maybe…but that may also be at least partially due to the fact that Tundra only had like 4.5% of the market (using 2019 data to avoid COVID outlier).

In other words, if they hypothetically broke down at the same rates (not saying they do), a mechanic is about 21x more likely to see a Ford, Chevy/GMC, or Dodge than a Toyota.

I’m also skeptical of fanboy opinions. There are a lot of guys on Tundra Crew that will say things like, “Just hit 100,000 miles. Have replaced the starter and had the dreaded cam tower leak but damn I love this truck. I’ll take the 13mpg 5.7 over turbos any day.” I’m exaggerating a bit but not too much. And before anyone jumps on me, keep in mind I had a Tundra for 11.5 years, almost bought another one several times, bought a Titan and then sold it after 3 months keeping the Tundra, and the agonized for a while before switching brands so I’m not shitting on Toyota. I’m just saying opinions from mechanics and others should be taken with a grain of salt. I haven’t found much empirical data on frequency of repairs on vehicles…you’d think that would be readily available with all the data Carfax and others collect…

 

[5MilesBack]

That’s why it’s hard to judge this stuff based on anecdotes. Mechanics say they never see Tundras…well, maybe…but that may also be at least partially due to the fact that Tundra only had like 4.5% of the market (using 2019 data to avoid COVID outlier).

It may just be a local thing, but every time I leave my house the majority of pickups I see are Tundra's, and I see a bunch of them. Used to be Tacoma's, but I see way more Tundra's these days.

 

[PaulIV]

That’s why it’s hard to judge this stuff based on anecdotes. Mechanics say they never see Tundras…well, maybe…but that may also be at least partially due to the fact that Tundra only had like 4.5% of the market (using 2019 data to avoid COVID outlier).

In other words, if they hypothetically broke down at the same rates (not saying they do), a mechanic is about 21x more likely to see a Ford, Chevy/GMC, or Dodge than a Toyota.

I’m also skeptical of fanboy opinions. There are a lot of guys on Tundra Crew that will say things like, “Just hit 100,000 miles. Have replaced the starter and had the dreaded cam tower leak but damn I love this truck. I’ll take the 13mpg 5.7 over turbos any day.” I’m exaggerating a bit but not too much. And before anyone jumps on me, keep in mind I had a Tundra for 11.5 years, almost bought another one several times, bought a Titan and then sold it after 3 months keeping the Tundra, and the agonized for a while before switching brands so I’m not shitting on Toyota. I’m just saying opinions from mechanics and others should be taken with a grain of salt. I haven’t found much empirical data on frequency of repairs on vehicles…you’d think that would be readily available with all the data Carfax and others collect…

Curious what you didn’t like about the Titan. There are some really great deals on them currently and they are the last v8 without auto start stop or afm so am considering one.

 

[Article 4]

Have had 2 of them. One in a Lariat and one in a Raptor. Neither of them has 100k before I traded or sold them and neither of them required a lick of repair outside normal maint.

Both pulled fine - heaviest I pulled was maybe 8000 lbs here and there and mostly 3000 lbs or so on a regular basis with toys, boat, SxS trailer etc... Towing they got about 12 mph.

Neither also got better MPG than about 14 or 15 at 80 MPH too. Not like many trucks do but the 10 speed really doesn't do much with that motor in gears 8 through 10.

 

[GunsAreFun]

Curious what you didn’t like about the Titan. There are some really great deals on them currently and they are the last v8 without auto start stop or afm so am considering one.

You definitely get a lot of truck for the money with Titans. I got a fully loaded (literally every option) PRO-4X…same year and mileage as the F-150 XLT (so mid range trim) I just bought for about the same price. It was a very sharp looking truck inside and out.

There were five main things that I didn’t like:
1. The backseat is a good bit smaller than a Tundra. I knew this going into it and was prepared to live with it until I went to put my kids car seats in and realized the back door opened probably 20 degrees less than other trucks. This meant that loading anything in the backseats from groceries to suitcases was very difficult and everything (even a sack of groceries) had to be lifted over the car seat. Forget putting totes or coolers back there like I did with the Tundra.
2. It did not get near the gas mileage it was rated for. It should have been a 3mpg improvement over the Tundra, but it was at best 0.5 mpg better on the highway and sometimes worse in the city.
3. With the moonroof, my head was basically touching the ceiling at my preferred seat position. If I hit a bump, my head would hit the roof.
4. It only has a 26 gallon tank and no aftermarket option to add another. I knew this going in and didn’t love the idea, but thought it would be less of an issue if it actually got close to posted mpg.
5. The cruise control was really annoying going down hill. Hard to describe but it would struggle to maintain speed…kind of pulsing the truck..slowing it down ever so slightly and then speeding it back up. I basically had to turn it off down any hills, which is often where I drive.

If I didn’t have the Tundra as a reference point or didn’t have young kids, most of those issues wouldn’t have been noticed or as big of a deal. However, when the old truck is more functional than the new, the new has to go.

Fortunately, I shopped very long and hard and got such a great deal that I was able to sell it in a couple days for what I paid for it, and then bought the F-150 within six months of that to get the sales tax credit. So, I literally drove the Titan for three months for only the price of gas.

I do miss the ventilated seats. Those are amazing after a workout. I was really spoiled with the 360 camera so that was a must when shopping for F-150s. It didn’t have great approach or departure angles so I was curious how it was going to do on Forest Service roads, but it had a pretty beefy front skid plate and TFL Truck had taken it down some roads much rougher than I’d ever do and it did fine.

 

[GunsAreFun]

Have had 2 of them. One in a Lariat and one in a Raptor. Neither of them has 100k before I traded or sold them and neither of them required a lick of repair outside normal maint.

Both pulled fine - heaviest I pulled was maybe 8000 lbs here and there and mostly 3000 lbs or so on a regular basis with toys, boat, SxS trailer etc... Towing they got about 12 mph.

Neither also got better MPG than about 14 or 15 at 80 MPH too. Not like many trucks do but the 10 speed really doesn't do much with that motor in gears 8 through 10.

What years did you have?

 

[Article 4]

What years did you have?

Had a 17 Lariat and a 20 Raptor

 

[Oilfieldmiller]

I have two. 2018 transit van and 2020 f-150. Replaced turbo on van at 120k miles. Trk has 120k on it also and max towing package. Besides the one turbo, both have done great, lots of power for those vehicles, and both tow better than other 1/2 ton pickups I’ve had in past.


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