25-06 and Elk

[woods89]

This could be entertaining.......

 

[Tmac]

Ryan is a pea shooter?

Apparently so, as are a number of others I guess.

 

[woods89]

Apparently so, as are a number of others I guess.

The B.C. is bad, but we get by......

 

[Ryan Avery]

Weak! Dude cmon. A freaking.25-06! You pea shooter guys have a cliché answer for everything. That is NOT an ethical elk caliber and you know it! And so far you’re the only one who used the word magnum. Nobody here said that is necessary.

I feel sad for you because I was once just like you.

 

[Sako300]

He was just asking if he could kill elk with a 25-06? Is that correct?
Tough crowd man!
You can kill elk with a stick and string! I bet outfitters don’t say you can’t shoot elk with a non magnum bow!

 

[BigNate]

I've used my .25-06 on cow elk. One shot each, one exited the offside shoulder, the other exited the ribs. The insides were just as messed up as when I've used my .338WM with 250gr Woodliegh.

My favorite load for it has been Hornady 120gr hp over RL22.

With the right bullets the damage is the same as every other 06 size case.

A big bullet doesn't make up for poor placement.

 

[Hunt4lyf]

I've used my 25-06 on elk a couple times and I'll do it again, it works just fine when you put the bullet where it's supposed to go and no, I don't give two craps what someone else thinks.

 

[LoggerDan]

Would you take a 25’06 on a DIY grizzly hunt, provided you were an AK resident? My afognak bull would outweigh any interior grizzly. But I wouldn’t use the 25 in any location for either animal. Using a piss ant chambering, taking poor shots or limiting your shot opportunity doesn’t seem like the best way to hunt elk. Using a popgun to stroke your ego or to inflate your “whatever “ on some forum, isn’t impressing people.




back to my question: hell no you wouldn’t shoot a grizz with a 25’06, not when there’s a good chance of getting your ass chewed off. But,a crippled bull won’t bite you… to me, a bull elk is tougher than any of the bears I’ve been around in Washington and Alaska.

 

[Pdzoller]

If it’s what you got and you’re CONFIDENT AND GOOD with it, go for it. I personally think it’s every bit as “ethical” as an arrow. Obviously the weapon is only as lethal as the one wielding it.

 

[Fogalo]

This thread is proof that the internet is a waste of time.

How many times am I going to see the exact same version of this thread? Doesn’t anybody use the search function?

Maybe the post title should be tagged as pointless argument. That’d help people find more of this nonsense.

 

[Stray Horse]

You posted

 

[Stray Horse]

Most posters have never killed an elk with a 25-06 or any other rifle. Most are from the east or midwest with only what they have been told or read as a basis for their opinion.

 

[Stray Horse]

I have never killed an elk with a 25-06.
2 with 30-06
2 with 270
1 with 308 win
1 300 win mag
No difference for me in effectiveness.
Ranges 60 to 310 yards.
6 elk or 60 still can't paint a perfect picture in every scenario.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Would you take a 25’06 on a DIY grizzly hunt, provided you were an AK resident? My afognak bull would outweigh any interior grizzly. But I wouldn’t use the 25 in any location for either animal. Using a piss ant chambering, taking poor shots or limiting your shot opportunity doesn’t seem like the best way to hunt elk. Using a popgun to stroke your ego or to inflate your “whatever “ on some forum, isn’t impressing people.




back to my question: hell no you wouldn’t shoot a grizz with a 25’06, not when there’s a good chance of getting your ass chewed off. But,a crippled bull won’t bite you… to me, a bull elk is tougher than any of the bears I’ve been around in Washington and Alaska.

I would…I would shoot 115 bergers and it would die in short order.

 

[Tmac]

I have never killed an elk with a 25-06.
2 with 30-06
2 with 270
1 with 308 win
1 300 win mag
No difference for me in effectiveness.
Ranges 60 to 310 yards.
6 elk or 60 still can't paint a perfect picture in every scenario.

Another way to look at it is a 25-06 with 115-120 grain bullets is fully capable of anything you’d sensibly do with a 270 Win and 130 grain bullets of the same type. I have not found any difference in efficacy between 25-06, 260, 270 or 280. They have all resulted in quickly dead elk. That said I generally use my 270 or 280.

 

[Indian Summer]

You can also pull a trailer with a Subaru.

I never said you needed a 1 ton diesel. (Magnum)

But it’s much safe to go to a half ton pickup so you don’t wreck. (Unrecovered elk)

Yes you can pull a little utility trailer with a Subaru. (Deer)

But a horse trailer (elk) will run you over.

Even if you keep the Subaru between the lines (placement)

It just doesn’t have the horsepower (energy)

So now tell me that the pea shooter guys are marksmen and guys with bigger guns miss all the time. Don’t worry there are many of us who can keep a truck between the lines. Theres a tool for every job. Why put a screw in with a butter knife which we can all tell success stories about, when you could use a freaking screwdriver! Why???

 

[KurtR]

You can also pull a trailer with a Subaru.

I never said you needed a 1 ton diesel. (Magnum)

But it’s much safe to go to a half ton pickup so you don’t wreck. (Unrecovered elk)

Yes you can pull a little utility trailer with a Subaru. (Deer)

But a horse trailer (elk) will run you over.

Even if you keep the Subaru between the lines (placement)

It just doesn’t have the horsepower (energy)

So now tell me that the pea shooter guys are marksmen and guys with bigger guns miss all the time. Don’t worry there are many of us who can keep a truck between the lines. Theres a tool for every job. Why put a screw in with a butter knife which we can all tell success stories about, when you could use a freaking screwdriver! Why???

Actually pulling isn’t the problem stopping is.

What is the official list for pea shooter to over compensate club.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

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Here's some useful links pertinent to the subject at hand. Highlights include moose with 223 and giraffe with 6mm Remington. Have any magnum sized fellas been able to arouse one of these carcasses back to life? Or is it better to use logic and explain to them how they can't be dead yet because it wasn't a magnum?

.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ 176 PAGES? HERE'S THE CHEAT SHEET. “Bullets matter more than headstamps.” “Spent primers offer the supreme tutorial”. I’ve read it here and elsewhere online. It got my attention. I started digging and asking questions and listened. The 77gr TMK delivered by a .223...

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6mm /.243 hunting success on Big Game

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6mm/6.5

I didn't want to derail another thread. So I started this one. Who has shot/witnessed a big game animal past 500 yards with a 6mm or 6.5? Many members here love to tell you their opinion about it, but I am figuring out that damn few have done it. So if you have, please tell me the chambering...

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[Indian Summer]

Actually pulling isn’t the problem stopping is.

What is the official list for pea shooter to over compensate club.

Exactly right! Stopping is the problem. If you hit my truck (heavy bone) from behind the Subaru will stop dead. I’ll turn the radio down and say what was that? The truck (elk) will survive.

But if I hit a Subaru from behind with my truck it will barely slow down. The driver will get whiplash and I’ll push him right through the intersection. Good point.

 

[KurtR]

Exactly right! Stopping is the problem. If you hit my truck(heavy bone) from behind the Subaru will stop dead. The truck(elk) will survive. But if I hit a Subaru from behind with my truck it will barely slow down. The driver will get whiplash and I’ll push him right through the intersection. Good point.

Being a shitty driver kinda like a shitty shot.

But what where does pea shooter stop and non per shooter start.