.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

Went to a big hunt at a friends for deer youth weekend. Prob 20 kids and 12 dads at a big farm.

He had a steel target at 200 yards off the porch. Lots of kids sat down with calibers way too strong for them to shoot. I would say hit rate was 10-20%. Lots of talk about “I don’t know what’s going on, rifle was zeroed last season.”

My boys 9 and 11 sat down with my Blaser r8 in 223 suppressed. One went 5/5 and other 4/5 on the plate. My friends all got real quiet. Ha.
 
Went to a big hunt at a friends for deer youth weekend. Prob 20 kids and 12 dads at a big farm.

He had a steel target at 200 yards off the porch. Lots of kids sat down with calibers way too strong for them to shoot. I would say hit rate was 10-20%. Lots of talk about “I don’t know what’s going on, rifle was zeroed last season.”

My boys 9 and 11 sat down with my Blaser r8 in 223 suppressed. One went 5/5 and other 4/5 on the plate. My friends all got real quiet. Ha.
The other guys forgot to tap their scopes and let them “settle in”. 🤣
 
Reading through the thread most are using heavy for caliber bullets which I’d definitely prefer.
As I live in CA where copper/monolithic is a requirement what would be the recommended manufactured ammo/bullet (I do not hand load) for the .223 Rem for deer sized game (seems Hornady and Barnes make them in the 50gr-55gr range)?
I've shot three caribou with 62 grain TTSXs out of my Kimber Montana in 223 rem.

One was a follow-up shot on a caribou that was initially gut shot with a 300 win mag. The injured caribou was running straight away, and I took the only shot I had...the bullet was found near the neck, after traveling the length of the spine. The caribou dropped...
 
I’ve collected a few data points this fall with the .223 so I’ll start writing them up. Here’s the first- my boy punched a doe with his .223 77 gr tmk at 189 yards with a 2,362 fps impact velocity and it ran 50 yards and tipped over. Quartering shot that punched through the shoulder and the bullet was recovered just under the hide in the false ribs. No blood trail but wasn’t necessary.
 

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Fourth data point- my 12 year old got his cow elk at 158 yards with his .223 and 77 gr tmk. Upon the shot the cow jumped forward a step and the rest of the herd did nothing (suppressors are amazing). After about 4 seconds she reared up on her hind legs and flipped over. The herd then took off but ran right towards us, a pretty cool experience. Shot was high double lung and bullet shrapnel was in the off shoulder under the hide. No necropsy pics due to being in a hurry because of the long distance we had to hike out across a lava flow (didn’t want to cross that in the dark). Two years, two shots, 2 cow elk. He’s getting be a killer. IMG_2090.jpegIMG_2092.jpeg
 
My daughter used my RSS this year to take this young mulie buck on the last day of the rifle season here in Utah. We saw some nice bucks this year, but she had a few struggles getting on them. She shot just under a really nice bladed four point the first day. She was pretty upset after the first couple days and thought she was going home empty. She was telling me she wished she had shot the many younger bucks she had passed earlier in the hunt. The last morning we found this guy and she was very happy to get him. 20 in tikka 223 with 77 TMK. Did not range him, but was probably 120 to 150 yards away. First shot was not great middle body. He humped up a d hobbled a few steps. Second shot dropped him. No blood trail, but not needed. Sorry no wound cavity picks. This was the first deer with the RSS. Worked as expected. I am sure it would have been even better with a better first shot.
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My daughter used my RSS this year to take this young mulie buck on the last day of the rifle season here in Utah. We saw some nice bucks this year, but she had a few struggles getting on them. She shot just under a really nice bladed four point the first day. She was pretty upset after the first couple days and thought she was going home empty. She was telling me she wished she had shot the many younger bucks she had passed earlier in the hunt. The last morning we found this guy and she was very happy to get him. 20 in tikka 223 with 77 TMK. Did not range him, but was probably 120 to 150 yards away. First shot was not great middle body. He humped up a d hobbled a few steps. Second shot dropped him. No blood trail, but not needed. Sorry no wound cavity picks. This was the first deer with the RSS. Worked as expected. I am sure it would have been even better with a better first shot.
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Nice work 👍
 
Picked up a used tikka .223 late summer. Bonus the guy also had 50 TMKs loaded for it. Put it in a compact stock and kids 8 and 10 were having a blast shooting it.

Fast forward to yesterday, I put in the spacer and figured I would give it a test run for opening day of whitetail. Wanted to make sure when my kids can hunt in 2 years that it will “kill”.

Sat down midafternoon to cook lunch and had this guy come in raking brush. Stopped in an opening at 17 yds. First shot took out back of lungs/liver. He trotted 20 yds , stopped and 2nd shot to back of neck dropped him. Lungs were mush and fragmentation damaged liver and tore stomach lining. Neck meat was hamburger and broken vertebrae.

Fairly heavy bodied Saskatchewan 4x4. Enjoyed the low recoil and fast time to get back on target. Will not hesitate to put my kids behind this gun now. I just have to convince my Dad with a bad shoulder that he should use it.

Thanks to those that have thought outside the box and shared those results. It probably won’t replace my everyday gun but I will use it again and am glad I can set my kids up for success.


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Picked up a used tikka .223 late summer. Bonus the guy also had 50 TMKs loaded for it. Put it in a compact stock and kids 8 and 10 were having a blast shooting it.

Fast forward to yesterday, I put in the spacer and figured I would give it a test run for opening day of whitetail. Wanted to make sure when my kids can hunt in 2 years that it will “kill”.

Sat down midafternoon to cook lunch and had this guy come in raking brush. Stopped in an opening at 17 yds. First shot took out back of lungs/liver. He trotted 20 yds , stopped and 2nd shot to back of neck dropped him. Lungs were mush and fragmentation damaged liver and tore stomach lining. Neck meat was hamburger and broken vertebrae.

Fairly heavy bodied Saskatchewan 4x4. Enjoyed the low recoil and fast time to get back on target. Will not hesitate to put my kids behind this gun now. I just have to convince my Dad with a bad shoulder that he should use it.

Thanks to those that have thought outside the box and shared those results. It probably won’t replace my everyday gun but I will use it again and am glad I can set my kids up for success.


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That’s a big bodied buck, congrats!
 
One .270 130gr corlokt, one 30/06 180gr Hornady cup and core, one .223 75gr ELDM. Similar ranges, well placed shots, all dead. Can’t tell one from the other.

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Just got my Tikka 223/SWFA 3-9 a couple weeks ago and popped her cherry last night. Just a little button buck but I had my 3 year old with me so the first thing unlucky enough to walk out was gonna get it and he was excited. ~220 yards, 73 gr ELDM factory loads. Shot broadside, just behind shoulder. No exit, bang flop, no drama. Definitely more enjoyable to shoot than the -06.
 

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