.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[bcmntgoathunter.]

Does anyone know of anywhere selling factory loaded 77 tmk in Canada? Primer shop is apparently a scam

Have you tryed shooters choice kitchener ont and ellwood epps also in Ontario?

 

[Grizzle]

Have you tryed shooters choice kitchener ont and ellwood epps also in Ontario?

Have not but will give them a call, thanks!

 

[bcmntgoathunter.]

Have not but will give them a call, thanks!

No problem also hirch shooting supply in bc or corlanes in dawson bc might have stuff or get you what you need i live up in fsj and deal with them alot. But I hand load

To be quite frank I'm in the camp that would prefer more penetration than the 73 gr ELD-M generally offers, but in the context of anti-personnel terminal ballistics, ~15" is actually very solid. Now the reason why we're seeing that much penetration in this case probably has something to do with the bullet passing through some amount of low density tissue (e.g. lung) and/or empty space as opposed to pure muscle, but stuff like IWBA-informed testing leans more towards a somewhat conservative assumption that gel penetration will be roughly analogous to bodily penetration - disproportionate toughness of exit side skin notwithstanding - and ~12" of bodily penetration is sufficient to reach vitals from pretty much any realistic angle.

Obviously quartering animals can be a different story due to the differing anatomy and the possibility of more unconventional shooting positions, and a bullet that penetrates 14-16" on this kind of thoracic/shoulder shot could call for a measure of prudence on certain shot angles.

I feel the same way about the 73 eldm it dose work quite well tho that's why o also grabbed some 75 berger vld and 80.5 berger full bore should give me a bit more penetration but still be frangable

 

[Grizzle]

Thanks, was just at corlanes and backcountry with no luck. Western metal has been getting tmk component bullets but was hoping to not have to load for the .223 as I load for others and would like to spend more time shooting and less loading on the high volume rifle.

 

[bcmntgoathunter.]

Thanks, was just at corlanes and backcountry with no luck. Western metal has been getting tmk component bullets but was hoping to not have to load for the .223 as I load for others and would like to spend more time shooting and less loading on the high volume rifle.

True I get ya on that reloading to me is relaxing so if I gotta sit down stairs on my rcbs rock chucker for 2-3 hrs so be it lol.... you from the bc side up here? I'm looking for more guys to hunt with I'm mainly into mnt goats and elk but hunt predators thru the winter coyotes and wolves mainly but know where to get mnt lion and lynx.

 

[bearcreekbandit]

TX whitetail buck, with an 80-grain ELD-X. Savage 110 with a 5.56x45 chamber, loaded to max book .223 Rem. 2.395" COL, MV: 2685 fps. Shot was 115 yards, around 2500 impact velocity. Quartering to, hit low/rear portion of scapula, punched about a 2" hole out the back side of shoulder, coke can wound channel, exited middle ribs, exit wound a little bigger than a penny. Overall, about 16" long wound channel. Steady blood from the shot to recovery (60 yards).
Pig was 225 yards, shot in neck, bang-flop, no exit.

 

[NoveskeEnjoyer]

TX whitetail buck, with an 80-grain ELD-X. Savage 110 with a 5.56x45 chamber, loaded to max book .223 Rem. 2.395" COL, MV: 2685 fps. Shot was 115 yards, around 2500 impact velocity. Quartering to, hit low/rear portion of scapula, punched about a 2" hole out the back side of shoulder, coke can wound channel, exited middle ribs, exit wound a little bigger than a penny. Overall, about 16" long wound channel. Steady blood from the shot to recovery (60 yards).
Pig was 225 yards, shot in neck, bang-flop, no exit.

Nice buck!