.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[treydfoster]

Please, Please excuse my ignorance with my question. I have never ever hunted a bear, seen a bear, live near a bear in the wild any where withing 250+miles of me. So I know NOTHING, about hunting or killing a bear. Keep that in mind with my question. The only experience I have of even shooting at a "bear" was 40 years ago shooting 3D archery tournaments, I had a terrible, terrible time then of finding the "vitals" of a bear in a tournament. I thought then, and still do lol, so my question. Why cant ya just shoot a bear in the head? Not have to worry about missing the heart/lung area, not mess up any meat, just put one in the ear hole? Thanks in advance.

Yes you do.

 

[Gettincloser]

I stretched it out to 400 yards and I was very happy. I did not have much time and I was learning how to use the shooter app that was sugged. I took 4 shots, drove the 4wheeler down and marked them and headed back for the next 4 rounds.

Set 1: top right of the box, 4 shots at 1 1/4" (I could not believe it.) The wind was strong but steady. I dialed down and left to make a correction.

Set 2: middle of the box and a smidgen still high. Shots 1, 3 and 4 landed in the 1.5". (I pulled the 2nd shot and called it.) Including the 2nd shot that hit low and left you are looking at 5.8". The wind was still strong and steady. I adjusted down .2 mil and got ready for the 3rd set.

Set 3: 5.5" grouping. I felt this was a strong representative as the wind started surging/gusting. There might be 2" of vertical travel in the 4 shots but it really messed with the horizontal dispersion.

This gave me the numbers I needed to "true" the velocity to better use the shooter app. I look forward to doing more shooting "at distance." (Where I hunt, 200 yards is a decent shot!) If you have any suggestions (other than shoot 10 rounds when I have more time / grouping), I would love to hear it. With an 18" barrel, 400 might be a touch past max effective distance. I was shooting the Black Hills 77gr TMK at 388' elevation (in TX, 1.5 hrs from the gulf - sea level) and it was about 73 degrees outside. Does this look about right to you? Or did I do something wrong.

Thanks for your help and advise. This is new to me but really enjoying this distance shooting with no reportable recoil!

 

[Gettincloser]

Butcher here. That just ain't the standard.

Are you referring to accuracy? I felt it was great for shelf ammo.

 

[Camv]

For those in BC, budget shooter supply has 1x500 pack of tmk's in stock.

 

[Xnoheros]

For those in BC, budget shooter supply has 1x500 pack of tmk's in stock.

Snagged the last pack, thank you for the heads up!!!!

 

[treydfoster]

Are you referring to accuracy? I felt it was great for shelf ammo.

No but shooting a beef anywhere except the head isn't the standard.

 

[np307]

AAC TMK loads available on PSA currently. 90c per round.

 

[pilgrim7]

My wife's first deer! 77 grain Black Hills TMK. 30 yards. Both lungs liquified, and a small exit wound. Deer ran about 40 yards. Couldn't be happier with the results, and my fears of meat loss on close shots have been put at ease.

 

[Gettincloser]

No but shooting a beef anywhere except the head isn't the standard.

That is true. But if it can be used for Moose, why not!?! That would make me the 1st guy with a Bull/Beef hunt and a 77gr TMK!

 

[KHntr]

3 bull moose, 3 years, 1 bullet. 88 ELD m. 352 yards quartering in.

Pretty sure I’m the only guy on the planet to kill 3 moose in 3 years with a 223AI and an 88 ELD m.

 

[Moose83]

3 bull moose, 3 years, 1 bullet. 88 ELD m. 352 yards quartering in.

Pretty sure I’m the only guy on the planet to kill 3 moose in 3 years with a 223AI and an 88 ELD m.

And you have horseshoes hidden somewhere on you as well... finding the elusive unicorn spike-fork moose... nice work!

 

[KHntr]

And you have horseshoes hidden somewhere on you as well... finding the elusive unicorn spike-fork moose... nice work!

You think thats lucky, the first one I shot with an 88 I was with a buddy and we doubled on forks. Last year I killed one in the same place, 300 yards away. This year the double header was exactly in between those two…

 

[ResearchinStuff]

300 yards, 8 year old shooter, first deer ever, and drt. 77 tmk from a 223

 

[Moose83]

You think thats lucky, the first one I shot I was with a buddy and we doubled on forks. Last year I killed one in here 300 yards away. This year the double header was exactly in between those two…

Nice! Sounds like you've found yourself a nice little secret spot! Out of curiosity what does that Montana weigh? Looks like a nice little outfit for walking around.

 

[Sykes]

Savage 20" 223 77 TMK worked well in Oklahoma this year for my boys thanks to @themcfarland for sending some anmo. My 8 year old got his first deer opening day, 40 yards in the chest, took out the top of the heart. The next day my 10 year old got a hog at 60 yards on the trot. We will keep using the 77 TMK for sure

 

[treydfoster]

3 bull moose, 3 years, 1 bullet. 88 ELD m. 352 yards quartering in.

Pretty sure I’m the only guy on the planet to kill 3 moose in 3 years with a 223AI and an 88 ELD m.

How’d you do all that with one bullet?

 

[MEdude]

Reduce Reuse Recycle

 

[gbflyer]

Who’s gonna go tip over a bison with one? We need an assortment here.

 

[Moose83]

Who’s gonna go tip over a bison with one? We need an assortment here.

Not a .223, but if you do a search for "scenarshooter " on 24hrcampfire I think you can find a pic of a bison that was shot with a 60gr hornady sp out of a .220 swift.

 

[sierracharlie338]

Who’s gonna go tip over a bison with one? We need an assortment here.

You’d think walrus woulda been enough but not for this group! No sir-ee