.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[xsn10s]

Here's a link explaining how to modify mags with links to store bought ones too. "TonyTheTiger" was the person who I got the idea from. They also go into how you can modify your lower/ upper to seat out even farther if so desired. I only modified my mag and seated out to where they would feed reliably. I like it but decided I run from a standard mag for now. And seat out bullets to run from a bolt gun, I think I can get more velocity that way. And then run loads for fast follow up shots with the AR. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/long-coal-223-gas-gun.7173197/

 

[AKPH]

No personal experience with the 73's but the general consensus is that it is the 2nd best option in an AR platform 223 for hunting. Slightly less penetration than the TMK.

Hello

I shot a bunch of coyotes with from 200 yards to +600 yards with 23 inch bolt action rifle.
no big game.

this bullet is 1/4 or less in my rifle on 3 shots group. so very accurate.

field performance it works well but I think the "jacket" is softer, it looks to me it blows up more than the TMK.

 

[xsn10s]

I’ll check those out.

I did a bit of research and found a couple folks saying they were unable to get the 73gr ELD-Ms to shoot well in their White Oak Armory barrels. That’s what I happen to have so I changed my order over to 69gr Sierra TMKs.

I will say one thing about barrels. They are kinda like people and they just like what they like. So I wouldn't get too caught up with the barrel manufacturer. I'd make sure on barrel twist and try out some bullets.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Given the scarcity of TMK's, what's the best practice ammo that's similar to a TMK? I have 40 of them and would love to be able to switch back and forth from hunting to practice without changing zero (if that's possible).

Alternatively, just practice and hunt with the ELD-M's until I can buy a significant amount of TMK's? Not a reloader.

 

[HandgunHTR]

Been away for a bit.

Just wanted to chime in to disabuse the notion that the 5.56 was adopted so that troops could carry more ammo, or that it was due to wounding rather than killing, or the even dumber tumbling bullet BS.

It was primarily due to the fact that it resulted in better accuracy from the troops.

5.56×45mm NATO - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Pay attention in the “History” section.

 

[ztc92]

Given the scarcity of TMK's, what's the best practice ammo that's similar to a TMK? I have 40 of them and would love to be able to switch back and forth from hunting to practice without changing zero (if that's possible).

Alternatively, just practice and hunt with the ELD-M's until I can buy a significant amount of TMK's? Not a reloader.

I found that handloads with 77 SMK’s and 77 TMKs using TAC had same POI at 100 yards and only 0.1 to 0.3 mil difference at distances out to 600 in my Tikka.

 

[Castle Rock]

Yep, I have used 77MK & TMK interchangeably in handloads without having to adjust sights

 

[3one5]

Hell yeah, very nice.

 

[RockAndSage]

Given the scarcity of TMK's, what's the best practice ammo that's similar to a TMK? I have 40 of them and would love to be able to switch back and forth from hunting to practice without changing zero (if that's possible).

Alternatively, just practice and hunt with the ELD-M's until I can buy a significant amount of TMK's? Not a reloader.

What they do in your gun will be individual to your gun, so don't expect to find something that matches zero very well, but the closest I can think of that fits your bill for factory ammo with a tipped heavy bullet might be the AAC 75gr Sabre black tips.

 

[Clint.smith]

DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ 176 PAGES? HERE'S THE CHEAT SHEET.

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“Bullets matter more than headstamps.”

“Spent primers offer the supreme tutorial”.

I’ve read it here and elsewhere online. It got my attention. I started digging and asking questions and listened.

The 77gr TMK delivered by a .223 is where I ended up after many discussions and objective data regarding bullet performance and numerous pics of field results.

Now for the delivery system. Accurate. Repeatable. Reliable. Reasonable weight to afford steady shot placement and the ability to spot my own impacts yet packable. Tikka T3x, vertical grip, Sportsmatch rings, SWFA 6x MQ in mills. Replaced the trigger spring with a yo Dave, adjusted to my liking, then degreased everything and locked all of the screws down with loctite and got started.

The package checks all of the boxes. Plus, it’s FUN! Time at the range is spent learning to call wind, trigger control, spotting your own impacts and figuring out why a shot did or did not end up where you wanted it. No brake. No flinch. Inexpensive to shoot. The fun factor plus the ability to be able to afford to shoot a lot goes a long way to learning and understanding shooting, accuracy and precision.

With all of that said, I’ve decided to use 77 TMK out of a .223 from this delivery system for bear, deer and elk this season.

Opportunity presented itself a couple of days ago. I killed a mature, dry sow with the 77 TMK. Bullet performance exceeded all expectations! The terminal performance is on par with anything I’ve seen in a .284 or .30. Unreal performance. The bullet is a BEAST!

Practice will continue throughout the summer in preparation for the upcoming deer and elk seasons.

Based on my sample of one, the 77 TMK out of a .223 is truly a lethal combination well suited to a dedicated lower 48 big game rifle.

Would love to hear about others experiences with this bullet or similar bulletts!

Why not shoot a gun you know for sure has the true knock down power

 

[Castle Rock]

Why not shoot a gun you know for sure has the true knock down power

Yep, show us some FOOTPOUNDS

 

[atmat]

Why not shoot a gun you know for sure has the true knock down power

 

[mt100gr.]

Why not shoot a gun you know for sure has the true knock down power

Can you define "the true knock down power", please?? (And include the metric used in determining a sufficient amount thereof)

Thank you.

 

[Pharmseller]

Why not shoot a gun you know for sure has the true knock down power

Knockdown power is a myth.




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[The Guide]

Why not shoot a gun you know for sure has the true knock down power

Like an arrow!

Jay

 

[Matt5266]

Hey Clint welcome to Rokslide. The welcoming party will be here soon.....

 

[BLJ]

Norma Range & Training 223 Remington Ammo 62 Grain Full Metal Jacket

Made to be versatile enough for all shooters, Norma’s Range & Training FMJ Line is a perfect marriage of the quality that you expect from...

www.midwayusa.com

Maybe some decent practice ammo and end up with some good brass.

 

[Billogna]

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I JUST started playing this game again!!!

 

[ORJoe]

If knockdown power was real, body armor wouldn't work.

Enough energy to kill a 900 lb elk, would transfer through a 10lb armor plate and into the 200 lb person wearing it and kill them.

 

[Bugger]

Why not shoot a gun you know for sure has the true knock down power

Why post a comment in a 402 page long forum thread without at least glancing through the earlier pages?