.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[PNWGATOR]

What recipe are you after?

 

[DB29]

What recipe are you after?

The one that pushes a 77grTMK in a .223 to 1800fps out to 675yds with an 18in Tikka.

 

[PNWGATOR]

The one that pushes a 77grTMK in a .223 to 1800fps out to 675yds with an 18in Tikka.

Can’t help you with that.

I’m certain it exists, but I’m not one with that level of first hand experience.

22CM
22PRC
22UM

Above is where I’d start based on your expectations.

 

[Castle Rock]

Handloads, yes.
No offense but the person who shared this load with me made me promise not to share;
seriously.
I will say it's on the hot side.

Seriously , we are all grown ups here

 

[sierracharlie338]

Seriously , we are all grown ups here

Until someone hurts themselves and starts trying to sue. This is the society we live in these days. I would like to assume there aren’t many of those types of people on here but ya never know. I’m not saying I wouldn’t share the recipe but can understand his pause.

 

[Nomosendero]

It's not dangerous to list the components and not give the charge weight, at least not for me.

 

[mtnwrunner]

Handloads, yes.
No offense but the person who shared this load with me made me promise not to share;
seriously.
I will say it's on the hot side.

Kinda like when someone shares their honey hole with you with the understanding that you won't share it. Man's word is his word.

Randy

 

[Nomosendero]

Kinda like when someone shares their honey hole with you with the understanding that you won't share it. Man's word is his word.

Randy

Unless they are a Lib.

 

[mt terry d]

Seriously , we are all grown ups here

Ha! Yeah, right! ROFL

Kinda like when someone shares their honey hole with you with the understanding that you won't share it. Man's word is his word.

Randy

Yeah, but depending on the person it might not be a real tight bond.


It's not really like it's a secret. It's been discussed on RS in other places.

Okay, back on topic kiddos

Only a short time till another massive influx of dead critters thanks to
223 & TMK

I'm getting excited!!!

 

[Pharmseller]

Seriously , we are all grown ups here

Don’t use too much TAC with a 75 grain ELDM.






When it gets warm your Tikka firing pin assembly breaks.

Weird.




P

 

[PNWGATOR]

Don’t use too much TAC with a 75 grain ELDM.

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When it gets warm your Tikka firing pin assembly breaks.

Weird.




P

WTF?!

 

[Pharmseller]

WTF?!

Don’t do this:

I am here to eat crow, having learned my lesson

Overpressure is a thing. I’ve seen it. And when you’re pushing the envelope and then the temperature gets into the 80’s, you’re fúcked. Remember the 75 gr ELDM load I was so happy with? The one some of you guys said whoa Nelly you dumbass, that’s overpressure? And then I sai...

www.24hourcampfire.com

The only time I’ve ever exceeded book max.



P

 

[DB29]

Don’t use too much TAC with a 75 grain ELDM.

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When it gets warm your Tikka firing pin assembly breaks.

Weird.




P

If it grouped good and that was a plastic bolt shroud I would replace with metal and try again…

 

[Gettincloser]

I did not see this billet (or style of bullet) mentioned in the entire thread. Is it because it is not consistent?

What about frangable 223 / 5.56 ammo? I have only seen YouTube videos in balistics gel so I literally have nothing to say it will work... but look very cost efficient and like it would do the same thing (in theory) as a TMK...

Any 1st hand knowledge out there?

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Edit to add: as long as it is still heavy for caliber! I have seen them at 45gr for a 223 / 5.56...

 

[5811]

AAC 77gr TMKs from a 16" tikka. Still in stock at $0.85/ea. Every time I shoot a group, I end up wanting to buy more

 

[The Guide]

AAC 77gr TMKs from a 16" tikka. Still in stock at $0.85/ea. Every time I shoot a group, I end up wanting to buy more



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I ordered 200 of them and they should be delivered this week. You are seein a little higher ES than I expected but SD is ok for $0.85 ammo. Look forward to shooting them and seeing what they will do for me.

Jay

 

[sconnieVLP]

Which stability calculator have you all found to be the most accurate? My .223 bolt gun is a Bergara Ridge SP with a 1-9 twist barrel. It shoots the 73 ELD-Ms well, although I have only tried it to 300 yards so far.

JBM gives me a return of 1.51 with the 77 TMK, but the Speer and Bison Ballistics give me ~1.2. I run into the same results with the 73 ELD-M, so I'm questioning how much weight to put into it. I'm going to get some and just shoot them to see, but curious what other folks are seeing.

 

[z987k]

Which stability calculator have you all found to be the most accurate? My .223 bolt gun is a Bergara Ridge SP with a 1-9 twist barrel. It shoots the 73 ELD-Ms well, although I have only tried it to 300 yards so far.

JBM gives me a return of 1.51 with the 77 TMK, but the Speer and Bison Ballistics give me ~1.2. I run into the same results with the 73 ELD-M, so I'm questioning how much weight to put into it. I'm going to get some and just shoot them to see, but curious what other folks are seeing.

If it doesn't have a value to input for tip length it's going to be wrong on every tipped bullet.
Even jbm assumes plastic, if you have an aluminum tipped bullet it won't be quite correct either.
JBM is the one you want to use.

 

[robtattoo]

I'm not sure if these have been posted before & quite frankly, I'm not trawling through 390+ pages to find out.

For those who're thinking or wondering why to pick the TMK over the TGK (the Gameking being a 'hunting bullet' after all.....)



That massive jacket difference is why the MK is so devastatingly effective & why the GK gives the mushroom, so beloved of the advertising folk.

 

[sconnieVLP]

If it doesn't have a value to input for tip length it's going to be wrong on every tipped bullet.
Even jbm assumes plastic, if you have an aluminum tipped bullet it won't be quite correct either.
JBM is the one you want to use.

That's what I suspected, simply based on the logic of more information = a better output.

Thanks!