.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Antares]

You can safely assume that he has been informed by this very thread. Lots of his stuff comes off the internet. It's often easy to track his sources. Doesn't make him wrong though, or always right.

When's he going to get over the whole "HOLD THE FOREND!" thing?

 

[HighUintas]

When's he going to get over the whole "HOLD THE FOREND!" thing?

I hold the foreend and shoot better with a firm grip on it. To each his own, though

 

[Antares]

I hold the foreend and shoot better with a firm grip on it. To each his own, though

I don't care what people do with their support hand (e.g., hold the forend, put a hand over the scope tube, use a rear bag, etc.).

I take issue with Nathan's assertation that doing anything other than holding the forend is somehow lazy and undisciplined.

 

[hereinaz]

As this is a .223 thread, I would point out that the need to hold the forend or the scope is largely eliminated. Compared to the typical .308, 30-06, 300 win mag and everything in between, the need to control the forend of a .223 because of recoil is significantly reduced if not eliminated.

Now, holding the scope or forend to prevent wobble as a part of building a stable position is another thing.

I have learned that a properly sized and configured rifle system and proper body position reduces the benefit from holding the forend on precision.

 

[TxxAgg]

77 TMK 160ish yds




77 TMK x2
Jumped him at 80ish yds. 1st shot way high near ear. 2nd one in the boiler room.

 

[DJL2]

You can safely assume that he has been informed by this very thread. Lots of his stuff comes off the internet. It's often easy to track his sources. Doesn't make him wrong though, or always right.

I would hope so! That is what this thread is about, after all. To some extent, I think that reflects what Form posted concerning projectile choices and how they have been informed by development and availability. Heavy for caliber, consistently fragmentary projectiles are arguably more available now in quality/quantity than ever. Even if folks aren't sold on .224" as the answer, getting them around to the idea that "bullets matter more than headstamps" is important - both for them as a shooter, and for the ethical harvest of the animals we hunt.

I'm also digging the 22 ARC concept... even if it's just a 22 PPC in different clothing. You can put that in the rack next to your .223 Rem for a "big" gun option ;-). I want the 22 ARC to be successful because I think it's an amazing "jack of all trades" cartridge that doesn't require someone to run something BR/PPC boutique. My hope is that it puts heavy .224" TMK / ELD-M options in more shooter's hands.

 

[Elite7]

I’ll be in the market for a 223 in the next couple months for my kids to starts using next fall. If anyone has recommendations, I am looking for a youth/ compact rifle with a threaded barrel for a suppressor. Seems hard to find the shirt length if pull and threaded barrel together on a 223.

 

[BLJ]

@Elite7

I have a Ruger American Ranch that I “think” I can cut the LOP down to compact length.
I’m guessing that the upper hole on the bottom is for a smaller (compact) recoil pad.
Hoping to try this in the next couple months.

 

[Marshfly]

I’ll be in the market for a 223 in the next couple months for my kids to starts using next fall. If anyone has recommendations, I am looking for a youth/ compact rifle with a threaded barrel for a suppressor. Seems hard to find the shirt length if pull and threaded barrel together on a 223.

It should cost ~$150 to cut and thread a barrel. Buy the correct rifle and then just have it threaded.


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[BLJ]

It should cost ~$150 to cut and thread a barrel. Buy the correct rifle and then just have it threaded.


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I mentioned the correct rifle right above your post.


I know. I know.

 

[amassi]

I’ll be in the market for a 223 in the next couple months for my kids to starts using next fall. If anyone has recommendations, I am looking for a youth/ compact rifle with a threaded barrel for a suppressor. Seems hard to find the shirt length if pull and threaded barrel together on a 223.

Compact tikka for the win


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[Marshfly]

I mentioned the correct rifle right above your post.


I know. I know.

Having owned both Ruger Americans and Tikkas…no.

The American I owned shot well but it just felt cheap. I would 100% buy that before a CVA or anything else under $700 though. If the one I had wasn’t right handed I would still own it. Damn a son growing up and ending up left eye dominant.


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[PNWGATOR]

I’ll be in the market for a 223 in the next couple months for my kids to starts using next fall. If anyone has recommendations, I am looking for a youth/ compact rifle with a threaded barrel for a suppressor. Seems hard to find the shirt length if pull and threaded barrel together on a 223.

Tikka T3x Compact 223 and have it cut and threaded for a can. SWFA 6x milquad mil/mil mounted with UM rings. Done.

 

[BLJ]

The American I owned shot well but it just felt cheap.


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No argument here.

 

[Marshfly]

Tikka T3x Compact 223 and have it cut and threaded for a can. SWFA 6x milquad mil/mil mounted with UM rings. Done.

SWFA Milquad is the stuff of fairytales except for used these days. We need a new recommendation IMHO.


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[nobody]

SWFA Milquad is the stuff of fairytales except for used these days. We need a new recommendation IMHO.


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Trijicon Credo. It’s more $$, but still can be had under $1k. If dialing isn’t important the Huron and accupoint models can be had for less, but it won’t be FFP

 

[BLJ]

SWFA Milquad is the stuff of fairytales except for used these days. We need a new recommendation IMHO.


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When I was looking for something comparable I ended up with a 3-9 Credo.

 

[PNWGATOR]

What we need is @Unknown Munitions @Formidilosus @Ryan Avery to design, engineer and produce THE RokSlide special in house.

Rifle. Scope. Rings.

Let customers decide which bullet they want to shoot based on desired outcomes and have a plug and play easy button choice delivery system.

Seems simple enough to me.

#McRokslideSpecial ie Billiion$Brand

 

[Marshfly]

When I was looking for something comparable I ended up with a 3-9 Credo.

I think that scope is almost perfect. Just need that dude to dial. Darn it.


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[Elite7]

Thanks guys. I was leaning toward the tikka compact and have a company locally that can thread it.