.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

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For those looking for Mountain Tactical 223 mags, I seem to remember reading that they are coming out with an updated 223 version this year so may be why the older gen has been pulled from the site.
 

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For those looking for Mountain Tactical 223 mags, I seem to remember reading that they are coming out with an updated 223 version this year so may be why the older gen has been pulled from the site.

Yes. I was having feeding issues with mine, called and they said send it back and they'd send a new one. They were originally going to be out this month (from what I understood at least) but sounds like they'll be a few weeks late now which is a bummer because I already sent my mag back...

They always return my phone calls and e-mail though so one way or another I'm sure I'll get taken care of.
 

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I guess I need to sell my .223 , it’s a older 1:12 twist , and after reading this thread , it sounds like it’s unacceptable for + 55gr bullets ?
I guess it’s gotta stay barns ttsx under 100yards
Could always rebarrel, if slinging heavies is your goal. The 1-12 certainly will not be up to spinning them. What is the action?

55 grain gold dots would be my preference, but there are a variety of effective deer killing bullets that should work with your 1-12 twist. They won't have as attractive BC's but they will get the job done.
 

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I know tikka’s are number one but what’s the common thought on the ruger American predator 223?

I have the RA Ranch. ADI 69 Sierra BTHP Match put 5 under an inch at 100 off of bipods and a rear bag. 10 round Magpuls AR mags have been stone reliable.
 

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Anything in particular to watch out for? I’m at about 300 rounds with mine and I’ve dry fired around twice that. I’d like to know what to look for. Thanks.
 

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I just bought an Arken SH4 4-16, should be here today actually to put on top of my Ruger American Predator 223. I called ruger today about the AICS magwell conversion. It's $26 so I may do that down the road. Just got the gun last week so once i get the optic on and such I will be running thru some Hornady Frontier 68 grain HPBT factory ammo and then working up a load with the 73 ELDMs. Looking forward to it! I cleand the action really well and oiled the bolt, gotta say it's pretty dang smooth. not as smooth as my bergara but im really liking it so far. Hope it shooots well lol.
 

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Anything in particular to watch out for? I’m at about 300 rounds with mine and I’ve dry fired around twice that. I’d like to know what to look for. Thanks.

Just overall reliability of used hard. Small parts breakages on some, stocks are hot garbage, triggers are compromised, etc.

The rifles are certainly usable for most people and their uses, but whereas the T3x is a very good rifle in any comparison, the American is a cheap rifle that is semi decent. To try and correct those deficiencies is more costly than ones that don’t have them, and you still can not fix all or most.
 

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I’ll agree on the stocks. No argument there. But beyond that, I’ve never read of issues with small parts or trigger issues. I have 4 centerfires and 3 rimfires and have yet to have an issue. Do you have links where I could look into this a little more? Id like to be able to notice the signs. Thanks.
 

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I’ll agree on the stocks. No argument there. But beyond that, I’ve never read of issues with small parts or trigger issues. I have 4 centerfires and 3 rimfires and have yet to have an issue. Do you have links where I could look into this a little more? Id like to be able to notice the signs. Thanks.


Just generally Google “problems with Rugar Americans”.


I am not sayin that you will have problems, I am saying that in seeing them used heavily- problems are not uncommon.
 

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I tried the “problems with Ruger Americans”. A lot of rotary mag issues. Creepy triggers. And stocks, like mentioned before.
Maybe I’ll try some different searches later to come up with something. I’d like to have parts on hand so I’m not down. Thanks again.
 
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Just overall reliability of used hard. Small parts breakages on some, stocks are hot garbage, triggers are compromised, etc.

The rifles are certainly usable for most people and their uses, but whereas the T3x is a very good rifle in any comparison, the American is a cheap rifle that is semi decent. To try and correct those deficiencies is more costly than ones that don’t have them, and you still can not fix all or most.
Out of curiosity, do you have a standardized way to simulate harsh conditions? We had a -8° F night not too long ago and I wanted to see how my Tikka would hold up to getting wet and being left out to freeze. That was obviously a bit too much because every moving part was frozen stuck.
 

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Out of curiosity, do you have a standardized way to simulate harsh conditions? We had a -8° F night not too long ago and I wanted to see how my Tikka would hold up to getting wet and being left out to freeze. That was obviously a bit too much because every moving part was frozen stuck.
A couple buddies who didn’t have action covers froze their tikkas on a hunt this year. Hard rain and dust prior to freezing too. Both of their bolts were frozen shut at the end of the day. Spent a couple hours next to the stove. The one that got shot on animals went boom just fine.

We are lucky to have some shit weather here, Iv had my tikka out in -20 f with no issues. Not form but I figured I’d throw in my experience.
 

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Out of curiosity, do you have a standardized way to simulate harsh conditions? We had a -8° F night not too long ago and I wanted to see how my Tikka would hold up to getting wet and being left out to freeze. That was obviously a bit too much because every moving part was frozen stuck.


With enough frozen water, they all will stop guns at some point.

However: below 20°, 8oz of water poured all over and in the action and trigger, whole thing dropped in snow, then stood up over night. This isn’t supposed to be representative of anything, except maybe the worst case- it’s meant to show differences between actions and triggers.
 

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Could always rebarrel, if slinging heavies is your goal. The 1-12 certainly will not be up to spinning them. What is the action?

55 grain gold dots would be my preference, but there are a variety of effective deer killing bullets that should work with your 1-12 twist. They won't have as attractive BC's but they will get the job done.
Can’t be done, it’s a handi rifle single shot , old ranch yo man
 
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