.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

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Anyone have any info on impact velocities? How slow are these still working? I know it’s not exact, but a close guess. Thanks.
It’s in the thread somewhere pages back, probably a few times.

My goal is to keep them going 2k impact velocity, which works good with what I consider a long range for the 223.
 

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Thanks @Lawnboi. I assumed it would be in here, just didn’t want to do an 80 page search for it.
Your looking for 2k and above? For deer size game?
 

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Thanks @Lawnboi. I assumed it would be in here, just didn’t want to do an 80 page search for it.
Your looking for 2k and above? For deer size game?
Yes, a couple reasons, I want aggressive expansion. In my experience 2k does that. My bullet hits 2k at around 400 yards. Beyond that I feel like I’m gambling when it comes to that bullet from a 223 in the wind.
 

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With my load and where I hunt, 2k should be very attainable for me. Thanks.
 

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Anyone have any info on impact velocities? How slow are these still working? I know it’s not exact, but a close guess. Thanks.


Good upset (read wide) down to 1,800’ish fps. Understand that as with all cartridges, below around 2,000fps wounds will be narrower due to the temp cavity not causing permanent damage.

I do not necessarily recommend using it to this, however I have seen multiple kills quite a bit below 1,800fps impact and the wounds were still dramatic.
 

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Good upset (read wide) down to 1,800’ish fps. Understand that as with all cartridges, below around 2,000fps wounds will be narrower due to the temp cavity not causing permanent damage.

I do not necessarily recommend using it to this, however I have seen multiple kills quite a bit below 1,800fps impact and the wounds were still dramatic.
What I wanted to here. Much appreciated.
 

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Been a number of moose hunts in Ontario...primarily bow hunts but a few rifle. My two observations based on common shooting ranges are this.

1. The local tribal members tend to lean towards the 30-30 or something in that line. Note the typical shot can easily be a bow range shot so that round works fine. That said I'm not sure how comfy I would be with a .223 at close range turning into pepper against a rib or shoulder. He might just look at ya funny?

2. We do almost all of our calling on lakes or cuts so you often have a 300 yard shot if you want it. No .223 round is going to perform well at that distance against that animal.

So...if your paying for a hunt I would want the ability to reach out and touch someone with emphasis. And that's not a 223. If you are fine working him into 70-100 yards then the .223 would work fine I guess. (Note...don't know the ON minimum for caliber on the forest cow.)
 

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Been a number of moose hunts in Ontario...primarily bow hunts but a few rifle. My two observations based on common shooting ranges are this.

1. The local tribal members tend to lean towards the 30-30 or something in that line. Note the typical shot can easily be a bow range shot so that round works fine. That said I'm not sure how comfy I would be with a .223 at close range turning into pepper against a rib or shoulder. He might just look at ya funny?

2. We do almost all of our calling on lakes or cuts so you often have a 300 yard shot if you want it. No .223 round is going to perform well at that distance against that animal.

So...if your paying for a hunt I would want the ability to reach out and touch someone with emphasis. And that's not a 223. If you are fine working him into 70-100 yards then the .223 would work fine I guess. (Note...don't know the ON minimum for caliber on the forest cow.)
Did you see the moose pics back aways?
 

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With substantially more kills with the 22CM and 77gr TMK’s now- they wreck stuff. Penetration has not been an issue even at close range.
Wow, that's pretty surprising. Don't 77gr bullets hit somewhere around 3600fps out of a 22CM? If penetration isn't an issue even well north of 3000fps, that is very impressive. Terminal performance must be pretty wicked at those speeds.
 

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You guys have me all hyped up to try these out this year. I bought 400 of them so I’m ready to see what they do on a deer! Will be using my ruger predator 223 and a 223 wylde 20” AR


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You guys have me all hyped up to try these out this year. I bought 400 of them so I’m ready to see what they do on a deer! Will be using my ruger predator 223 and a 223 wylde 20” AR


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Where did you find 400 of them?!
 
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