.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

How much meat are you losing? I high shouldered a MD a couple weeks ago and had lots of meat loss. Cool to watch him drop, but not cool when I cut him up.
You def lose the front shoulder.

In Alabama we have a three buck limit and unlimited does (a doe a day). So losing one shoulder for me has negligible effect.

As stated here a ton the woods often get so thick you can’t walk through them. Literally can’t. So a deer dropping on the spot is important. A lost shoulder is better than a lost deer.
 
A doe a day is wild. Losing 10-20lbs on a doe is nothing, if you can shoot that many. 😆
I love it. Lots of lists have Alabama as state with second most deer in the USA.

We def don’t have rules that lead toward world class antler scores. I’ve killed two booners the last two years that were both 140’s. Most never get a 150” deer.

That said. We can hunt for 4 months and shoot a deer every time we go. I love to hunt so I think the trade off is worth it. And the state wants population control for auto accidents and such.
 
I love it. Lots of lists have Alabama as state with second most deer in the USA.

We def don’t have rules that lead toward world class antler scores. I’ve killed two booners the last two years that were both 140’s. Most never get a 150” deer.

That said. We can hunt for 4 months and shoot a deer every time we go. I love to hunt so I think the trade off is worth it. And the state wants population control for auto accidents and such.

It is pretty great for putting meat in the freezer. And the one a day is actually a reduction from the two a day we used to be able to kill until about a decade or so ago, and for a while at least there was no limit on the total number of bucks either, just no more than one of your two a day could be a buck. I remember doing the math at one point and it worked out to being able to legally kill something like 220 deer a year.
 
It is pretty great for putting meat in the freezer. And the one a day is actually a reduction from the two a day we used to be able to kill until about a decade or so ago, and for a while at least there was no limit on the total number of bucks either, just no more than one of your two a day could be a buck. I remember doing the math at one point and it worked out to being able to legally kill something like 220 deer a year.
Probably the most prolific whitetail hunter of all time is here and I know him well. He has gotten up there in age. But he has killed thousands of deer. Fed many many food shelters through his years.

Look up Dr Bob shepherd. His book “Whitetails” is the best and I give it out as gifts a lot.
 
I love it. Lots of lists have Alabama as state with second most deer in the USA.

We def don’t have rules that lead toward world class antler scores. I’ve killed two booners the last two years that were both 140’s. Most never get a 150” deer.

That said. We can hunt for 4 months and shoot a deer every time we go. I love to hunt so I think the trade off is worth it. And the state wants population control for auto accidents and such.
I lived in Michigan for a short stint and this makes me miss that aspect, lots of tags and getting to hunt multi weapon for 4 months
 
I grew up in west TN and hunted there until 2019. I miss it. I miss seeing 40+ deer in an afternoon and shooting 2-3 does at a time.

I largely started hunting in IA and didnt realize until I left just how unique a situation that was.
 
I grew up in west TN and hunted there until 2019. I miss it. I miss seeing 40+ deer in an afternoon and shooting 2-3 does at a time.
Yep. Normally if I/we shoot one we go on and shoot 2-3. If I’m going to mess with one might as well make it count…haha. Between us at home and what we cook on shift at work we eat a lot of deer so I like to put up a dozen or more. Every other year we have crop damage permits too so that helps out.
 
TN my unit is 3 does a day. Have done that a few times now.
Where I hunt most of my whitetail is unlimited does with no daily limit. Makes for busy days and not worrying at all about meat loss.

You lose a heck of a lot more meat (all of it) if you shoot for “no meat loss” and can’t find the deer in thick woods, etc.
 
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