.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Blaw]

I definitely want to see some ELD-VT necropsy photos. To my mind they're everything a Lapua Scenar/Berger with the large cavity behind the open tip *should* be were it not for their tougher jackets.

hey how are those scenars? I think there is a 108gr in 6.5...

 

[Jt89]

hey how are those scenars? I think there is a 108gr in 6.5...

I haven't used them based on research done here and elsewhere. I was looking at information on the 155's in particular (it may be different for a 108gr 6.5) but my understanding is that projectile expansion and upset is less than expected in most cases. Despite the large hollow cavity behind the meplat I have been reading that they don't open up as violently as I personally would expect from their construction, and that TMK's and ELD-M's expand more readily at lower impact velocities.

The idea of a thin match jacket on a particularly long, medium for caliber bullet with a big ass cavity up front tickles me. I run short rifles because bush bashing in NZ with a suppressed 22" barrel sucks. Gaining some velocity back by running a medium weight bullet with an exceptional BC to offset a 16-18" barrel is what I'd like to do, but I accept that there's no such thing as a free lunch.

 

[Castle Rock]

I have had good results with both the 55 Ballistic Tip and 55 grain Sierra SP BT

Have a 22-250 with 1:12 twist. 77 gr TMKs are pretty much a no-go due to barrel twist rate… at least that’s my assumption.

So what’s the recommended bullet for such a cartridge and twist rate for deer?

 

[wirehead]

I have had good results with both the 55 Ballistic Tip and 55 grain Sierra SP BT

Sierra SP BT being a good ole game king?

 

[Castle Rock]

Sierra SP BT being a good ole game king?

Yeah, although it is known by various names

 

[wirehead]

Yeah, although it is known by various names
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Thank you! I was leaning that direction, as it was…

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Best .223 Ammo for Deer Hunting (2024 Updated)

What’s the best 223 ammo for deer hunting? If you want to take your AR-15 on your next deer hunt, then you need to load these deer cartridges in your mags.

ammo.com

Doesn’t appear that they referenced the most comprehensive field testing data available…this thread. Or did any actual, meaningful research at all for that matter.

 

[Gstew1930]

The fact that their number one pick is a solid copper & added 2 more varmint bullets to the list pretty much sums it up lol

 

[Ozarkansas]

Best .223 Ammo for Deer Hunting (2024 Updated)

What’s the best 223 ammo for deer hunting? If you want to take your AR-15 on your next deer hunt, then you need to load these deer cartridges in your mags.

ammo.com

Doesn’t appear that they referenced the most comprehensive field testing data available…this thread. Or did any actual, meaningful research at all for that matter.

Failing to put any 62-75 grain projectiles on that list is even more baffling to me than not putting this site’s favorite bullet on it. Dude left off partitions, gold dots, fusions, game kings, TMKs, barnes, and every other widely accepted “deer bullet” in their most popular weights in favor of some 55 grain varmint bullets.

After reading that article I’m pretty sure it was written at least in part by ChatGPT

 

[Big_wals]

The fact that their number one pick is a solid copper & added 2 more varmint bullets to the list pretty much sums it up lol

But that bullet was “explicitly designed for deer hunting”. Did you not even read it? And it has “solid ballistics”.

 

[The_Yetti]

Yeah, although it is known by various names
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That Super Roo load is awesome! I assume its marketed for use on kangaroos?

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Best .223 Ammo for Deer Hunting (2024 Updated)

What’s the best 223 ammo for deer hunting? If you want to take your AR-15 on your next deer hunt, then you need to load these deer cartridges in your mags.

ammo.com

Doesn’t appear that they referenced the most comprehensive field testing data available…this thread. Or did any actual, meaningful research at all for that matter.

they actually started a thread on RS looking for feedback on the article. you should respond

 

[Gstew1930]

But that bullet was “explicitly designed for deer hunting”. Did you not even read it? And it has “solid ballistics”.

Lmao no doubt

 

[BLJ]

they actually started a thread on RS looking for feedback on the article. you should respond

It was in the whitetail section yesterday but it’s not there now.

I read the article and then asked if they had actually killed any deer with the bullets they recommended.
No response before the thread was removed.

 

[wind gypsy]

It was in the whitetail section yesterday but it’s not there now.

I read the article and then asked if they had actually killed any deer with the bullets they recommended.
No response before the thread was removed.

"I hear those Rokslide guys love hunting with 223s, lets send them our article and maybe they can help pump it up for more hits"


"oh no, they know we haven't got a F'in clue"

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Too bad that one was yanked, it could have become an all time great.

 

[BLJ]

"I hear those Rokslide guys love hunting with 223s, lets send them our article and maybe they can help pump it up for more hits"


"oh no, they know we haven't got a F'in clue"

Kinda figured that was the case. I still felt like I needed to read the article before asking a question I already knew the answer to.

I’m going to guess that no deer were harmed during the research phase of the article.

 

[Unclecroc]

Have a 22-250 with 1:12 twist. 77 gr TMKs are pretty much a no-go due to barrel twist rate… at least that’s my assumption.

So what’s the recommended bullet for such a cartridge and twist rate for deer?

Barnes 50gr ttsx or 44gr hammer hunter. This is the exit side of a whitetail doe using a 50 grain ttsx at 3850 muzzle velocity. She went 40 yards. These are out of a 26” barrel 1-12” twist.

 

[Reddish]

Best .223 Ammo for Deer Hunting (2024 Updated)

What’s the best 223 ammo for deer hunting? If you want to take your AR-15 on your next deer hunt, then you need to load these deer cartridges in your mags.

ammo.com

Doesn’t appear that they referenced the most comprehensive field testing data available…this thread. Or did any actual, meaningful research at all for that matter.

“Federal Fusion uses bonded soft-point bullets, which tend to be less accurate than polymer-tipped bullets. However, the terminal ballistics might perform better for most deer hunters because soft-point bullets expand on impact, causing more damage.”

This guy is my new favorite source of info…if you call yourself a “seasoned hunter” it makes you one on the interwebs.

 

[yeti12]

“Federal Fusion uses bonded soft-point bullets, which tend to be less accurate than polymer-tipped bullets. However, the terminal ballistics might perform better for most deer hunters because soft-point bullets expand on impact, causing more damage.”

This guy is my new favorite source of info…if you call yourself a “seasoned hunter” it makes you one on the interwebs.

It just goes to show that the people writing the magazines haven't been in the know for a very long time. They learn from and write on whatever marketing companies push at em.