.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[FCCDerek]

You dont have to be a slave to Tikka. There are lots of good .223's out there although slightly limited if you want a 1:8 twist (which you will need for the 75-80 grn class of projectiles). Fit and feel is important and the best might not be a Tikka.

Yeah, Tikkas are great but they're not the ONLY option. Lots of good ones. Though I caught some shit for it, the new Remington 700's with the 16.5" threaded barrel and Timney trigger can be found for a great deal. It's a 1-8" twist 5R barrel and shoots lights out. If only Tikka made a factory threaded barrel 223 with a 16"-18" barrel. That would be awesome.

 

[Spoonbill]

Yeah, Tikkas are great but they're not the ONLY option. Lots of good ones. Though I caught some shit for it, the new Remington 700's with the 16.5" threaded barrel and Timney trigger can be found for a great deal. It's a 1-8" twist 5R barrel and shoots lights out. If only Tikka made a factory threaded barrel 223 with a 16"-18" barrel. That would be awesome.

Tikka T3x Hunter .223 Rem 16.1" 1:8" 1/2"x28" Bbl Matte Hunter Stock/Blued 3rd Ranch Rifle JRTXAR312/16

Tikka T3x Hunter .223 Rem 16.1" 1:8" 1/2"x28" Bbl Matte Hunter Stock/Blued 3rd Ranch Rifle JRTXAR312/16 For Sale

www.eurooptic.com

Looks like they do.

 

[FCCDerek]

Tikka T3x Hunter .223 Rem 16.1" 1:8" 1/2"x28" Bbl Matte Hunter Stock/Blued 3rd Ranch Rifle JRTXAR312/16

Tikka T3x Hunter .223 Rem 16.1" 1:8" 1/2"x28" Bbl Matte Hunter Stock/Blued 3rd Ranch Rifle JRTXAR312/16 For Sale

www.eurooptic.com

Looks like they do.

Well dang, thats a nicely equipped little rifle! I like it a lot!

 

[ElPollo]

Yeah, Tikkas are great but they're not the ONLY option. Lots of good ones. Though I caught some shit for it, the new Remington 700's with the 16.5" threaded barrel and Timney trigger can be found for a great deal. It's a 1-8" twist 5R barrel and shoots lights out. If only Tikka made a factory threaded barrel 223 with a 16"-18" barrel. That would be awesome.

Tikkas aren’t the only option, but they are the most reliable and smoothest option under a grand. Tikka triggers and barrels are also generally better than anything else in their price range. But I hear you on having to cut and thread. My local smith’s charge for that work went up 30% over the last couple of years. A factory 18” threaded barrel for suppressors would make my day.

PNWG’s intent was in the right place with his comments to you on R700s, even if the delivery was coarse. They can be accurate guns, but they have design issues with the trigger that can make them less reliable and less safe in the field. And changing the trigger to a aftermarket model doesn’t fix those issues. If you hunt with one of these guns, it’s best to carry them with an empty chamber and to try your best to keep dirt, debris, water and ice from getting into the action. You can search for this info here on Rokslide and another places. Not saying it’s a bad gun, but R700s and their clones definitely have their limitations.

 

[Tallest]

I also think it's important to note that, at least how I read it, PNWG's statement was simultaneously addressing the R700 and the Hammers. To me, the hammer was the more critical deviation from the Rokslide-special-shooting-77GrTMKs concept.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

You dont have to be a slave to Tikka. There are lots of good .223's out there although slightly limited if you want a 1:8 twist (which you will need for the 75-80 grn class of projectiles). Fit and feel is important and the best might not be a Tikka.

Not really in my experience at all.

For me, when looking at a rifle, I observe 3 things in order of importance to me... Long term reliability, long term repeatability, and accuracy throughout the life of the barrel. Nothing really comes close to Sako and Tikka rifles in my use cases.

I've never owned a custom gun that performed any better in these categories and I've owned around 30 of them from a few different builders. Same goes with factory rifles of (pick your brand).

 

[Billy Goat]

Pretty good day, shoot turkey, catch trespass, find tmk's.

 

[FCCDerek]

Tikkas aren’t the only option, but they are the most reliable and smoothest option under a grand. Tikka triggers and barrels are also generally better than anything else in their price range. But I hear you on having to cut and thread. My local smith’s charge for that work went up 30% over the last couple of years. A factory 18” threaded barrel for suppressors would make my day.

PNWG’s intent was in the right place with his comments to you on R700s, even if the delivery was coarse. They can be accurate guns, but they have design issues with the trigger that can make them less reliable and less safe in the field. And changing the trigger to a aftermarket model doesn’t fix those issues. If you hunt with one of these guns, it’s best to carry them with an empty chamber and to try your best to keep dirt, debris, water and ice from getting into the action. You can search for this info here on Rokslide and another places. Not saying it’s a bad gun, but R700s and their clones definitely have their limitations.

What you said holds true for every rifle. Keep stuff out of the action and the trigger if you want optimal performance and guaranteed function. Don't adjust the trigger down to a hairs breadth of trigger pull, and take care of your gear. I've used Remington 700's and their clones my entire life without issue. Yes, I've read the articles on failures that have happened and those are unfortunate, if not entirely repeatable assuming you're taking care of your equipment. I feel like if they were as huge a deal as they're made out to be there wouldn't be countless manufacturers copying their design and selling tons of them. I've knocked my remingtons and clones around a fair amount trying to simulate the issues I've heard of with nothing happening. It was loaded with a dummy round, with a live primer, and sand instead of powder. That being said I'm not going to fill the action with debris, or ice or anything else to test it. Nor would I try and run it if it got packed full of stuff in the field. I'd clean it out first.

 

[ElPollo]

What you said holds true for every rifle. Keep stuff out of the action and the trigger if you want optimal performance and guaranteed function. Don't adjust the trigger down to a hairs breadth of trigger pull, and take care of your gear. I've used Remington 700's and their clones my entire life without issue. Yes, I've read the articles on failures that have happened and those are unfortunate, if not entirely repeatable assuming you're taking care of your equipment. I feel like if they were as huge a deal as they're made out to be there wouldn't be countless manufacturers copying their design and selling tons of them. I've knocked my remingtons and clones around a fair amount trying to simulate the issues I've heard of with nothing happening. It was loaded with a dummy round, with a live primer, and sand instead of powder. That being said I'm not going to fill the action with debris, or ice or anything else to test it. Nor would I try and run it if it got packed full of stuff in the field. I'd clean it out first.

People seems to like R700s enough to get defensive about them or to have had issues and choose not to use them. It’s not up to me to decide which group someone else is in.

 

[fwafwow]

Pretty good day, shoot turkey, catch trespass, find tmk's.

Need the trespass deats

 

[FCCDerek]

People seems to like R700s enough to get defensive about them or to have had issues and choose not to use them. It’s not up to me to decide which group someone else is in.

I'm not defensive over it. Just haven't had the issues with my rifles. I like how they shoot, and as with all my rifles, I ensure I never point them at anyone or anything I don't want to shoot. If I had an issue during my testing with them I'd sell them off. I've got a custom build on a Gunwerks action in 280AI that has performed great, and not accidentally fired with any of the testing I've done. And now I've got a 223, which admittedly, I haven't tested like that because I didn't have the stuff to load a dummy round for it yet. Were I to have issues, I'd happily send it on its way. But, like I said, no issues yet.

 

[ElPollo]

I'm not defensive over it. Just haven't had the issues with my rifles. I like how they shoot, and as with all my rifles, I ensure I never point them at anyone or anything I don't want to shoot. If I had an issue during my testing with them I'd sell them off. I've got a custom build on a Gunwerks action in 280AI that has performed great, and not accidentally fired with any of the testing I've done. And now I've got a 223, which admittedly, I haven't tested like that because I didn't have the stuff to load a dummy round for it yet. Were I to have issues, I'd happily send it on its way. But, like I said, no issues yet.

Thats fair. We base our decisions off our own experience. My point was only that, if I were choosing a starting point today, it would not be an R700 or a clone. I’ve owned them. My first was in about 1988.

 

[SquatchHunter]

Can we get an argument started about AR15 brands? I’m feeling left out over here.

PSA master race.

 

[Drenalin]

Can we get an argument started about AR15 brands? I’m feeling left out over here.

PSA master race.

Shouldn’t be a problem in a new thread. It’s the arguing time of year.

 

[Jsmalls273]

Can we get an argument started about AR15 brands? I’m feeling left out over here.

PSA master race.

Certain an argument over anything under the sun could be ensued round these parts.

Sent from my SM-S921U using Tapatalk

 

[SquatchHunter]

Shouldn’t be a problem in a new thread. It’s the arguing time of year.

All it takes is one more snow storm after a 60 degree week to kick off the anger. Lol

 

[bnsafe]

yall argue more than my wife and myself, which is sayin something

 

[chamois]

Roe deer is to Europe like Whitetail is to the US and here there is also a special appreciation for non typicals, like this that I hunted last weekend using my Blaser K95 single shot in 5,6x50R. Load used was Hornady's 75gr ELDM pushed by 26,0 gr of Varget for 2,906 fps.


Shot was taken from 225 yds and the bullet went through the heart. The buck jumped high in the air and left on a death run for 20-25 yds. In the next pictures you can see entry and exit sides in the carcass.

 

[Thegman]

Roe deer is to Europe like Whitetail is to the US and here there is also a special appreciation for non typicals, like this that I hunted last weekend using my Blaser K95 single shot in 5,6x50R. Load used was Hornady's 75gr ELDM pushed by 26,0 gr of Varget for 2,906 fps.
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Shot was taken from 225 yds and the bullet went through the heart. The buck jumped high in the air and left on a death run for 20-25 yds. In the next pictures you can see entry and exit sides in the carcass. View attachment 703391View attachment 703392View attachment 703390

Is that your tracking dog? What breed is it?

 

[chamois]

Is that your tracking dog? What breed is it?

Yes, it is, and he is always with me during my stalking.

He is a Bavarian Mountain Blood Hound, or BGS, acronym for the German name: Bayerische Gebirgs Schweiss Hund (@!#^@#*!@ç!!)