.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[Gorp2007]

Your assertion that the military "chose that round for its ability to injure more than kill" is absolutely false. That would be a violation of LOAC.

Not only is the assertion unsupported, but even if it could be proven, it would only apply to the M193 round. No one in this thread is advocating for the killing potential of a 55 gr FMJ.

 

[wind gypsy]

The military chose that round for its ability to injure more than kill. Killing an enemy solder removes 1 from the field, maiming 1 solder take 2 solders off the field (1 injured and 1 to care for them).

Buddy of mine sent me this clip recently. I immediately thought of this thread. DJ shipley probably has a good feel for reality on this.

 

[Formidilosus]

The military chose that round for its ability to injure more than kill. Killing an enemy solder removes 1 from the field, maiming 1 solder take 2 solders off the field (1 injured and 1 to care for them).

Completely and totally false. This is a nonsense myth that keeps getting repeated and has no basis in truth whatsoever.

 

[TxxAgg]

Dang, this thread just keeps delivering!

 

[atmat]

Completely and totally false. This is a nonsense myth that keeps getting repeated and has no basis in truth whatsoever.

187 pages of evidence and folks will still choose to believe an old wives tale that lacks evidence.

 

[Formidilosus]

187 pages of evidence and folks will still choose to believe an old wives tale that lacks evidence.

It’s not just that it lacks evidence- it’s completely false. 100% against US military doctrine, LOAC, and common sense. One of the metrics that the DOD used when selecting the 5.56 was something called “Stored Kills”. Meaning, in basic terms, the amount of “stored kills” in each magazine/combat load. With that metric the 5.56mm has more “stored kills” than 7.62x51mm.

 

[Der Schwabe]

Dang, this thread just keeps delivering!

I'm also really glad to see the moderators and contributors holding fast to the scientific method, and to facts!

 

[fwafwow]

Dang, this thread just keeps delivering!

 

[4090Sharps]

Buddy of mine sent me this clip recently. I immediately thought of this thread. DJ shipley probably has a good feel for reality on this.

That last line, followed by the shoulder shrug:

"My favorite round's a 5.56 70 grain, 77 grain. I love that, because, whatever you shoot with it dies after one round."

 

[TxLite]

Fyi

Sierra 7177 22 Cal 77gr HPBT TMK

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[wind gypsy]

Fyi

Sierra 7177 22 Cal 77gr HPBT TMK

Get the best deal on the Sierra Tipped Match King 7177 Bullets at GrabAGun.com. Get the best deals on Bullets for sale online at GrabAGun! Sierra for sale online. Flat rate shipping on all guns and ammo with the best prices around!

grabagun.com

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Is someone gonna tell them the tmk isn’t a hpbt?

 

[Castle Rock]

Well it actually is, but it is wearing a plug

 

[MEdude]

Not goona lie. My cheap ass will not be paying $0.43 per pop, for 223 bullets LOL

Other heavy match bullets are not free…..around $28 / 100. So the extra $15 to have the privilege of shooting the original, the rare, the Legend, the Tipped Match KING!?!?!?!?!?
Well I guess I’ll have to just say, I’m blessed they aren’t charging twice the price.
Put my order in for a couple hundred.

 

[TxLite]

Is someone gonna tell them the tmk isn’t a hpbt?

I had to scroll down and check the upc before posting to make sure it was right.

Not goona lie. My cheap ass will not be paying $0.43 per pop, for 223 bullets LOL

No doubt. Hopefully it means they will start showing up at other vendors soon

 

[bigunit]

I'm tagging this to read later. I built a 22-250 ackley this spring that shoots the 75eldm at 3450. I'd like to try it on deer at some point. Also thinking I may get an antelope tag this year.

 

[PsRpOiGrRiAtM]

ThE bUlLeT fRoM a 50 BmG wIlL rIp YoUr ArM oFf EvEn If It JuSt GoEs WiThIn 3 FeEt Of YoU!

 

[BjornF16]

ThE bUlLeT fRoM a 50 BmG wIlL rIp YoUr ArM oFf EvEn If It JuSt GoEs WiThIn 3 FeEt Of YoU!

Program Spirit...I gotta tell ya, you are really irritating

 

[PsRpOiGrRiAtM]

duly noted @BjornF16 was just trying to have some fun in light of the ".223 was developed to wound" post.

 

[Tahr]

Not goona lie. My cheap ass will not be paying $0.43 per pop, for 223 bullets LOL

69USD here in NZ (112NZD).

 

[justinspicher]

ThE bUlLeT fRoM a 50 BmG wIlL rIp YoUr ArM oFf EvEn If It JuSt GoEs WiThIn 3 FeEt Of YoU!

Are you holding 77gr TMKs hostage and telling us without telling us?