.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.

[BradArnett]

Someone acted quick, I’d been eyeing them for a day since I don’t reload yet and Runnings is local to me. Went to check out, and they were gone! Hopefully it was someone from this thread.

Wasn't me, I tried and they were gone

 

[Jeremyc_1999]

To no one in particular-

You’re pole vaulting over mouse turds. Take a 77gr TMK, put 23.7gr (or 23.5or 23.3gr) of 8208 in a case (any case), with any standard SR primer, seat it to 2.26” COAL, shoot. That’s it. That combo has shot well in every single 223/5.56 we’ve tried it in.

If one cannot find 8202 what powder/load would be your second choice?

 

[Formidilosus]

If one cannot find 8202 what powder/load would be your second choice?

TAC is good, Leverevolution is good- just a bit temp sensitive.

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Thanks. I saw those, I was just hoping to find some projectiles to load, but I will probably end up biting the bullet and getting some.

I have a hunch if you called or emailed Sierra that they would tell you when they anticipate another production batch. If they are in tune with demand, the next batch should be in the works, and it should be a very large quantity.

 

[Jake Leibke]

I know I’ve been seeing the 69 gr tmk more readily available within the last week. Maybe the 77 will start popping up more as well.


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[Jeremyc_1999]

And there are a bunch of 77gr HBPT Match kings in the area. I’m half tempted to get some of those and get some dope put together. I imagine I’ll be able to find some TMK by October and then just tweak/rework the dope. Snow is starting to melt and I’m starting to get restless

 

[Jeremyc_1999]

TAC is good, Leverevolution is good- just a bit temp sensitive.

Thanks. I think I’ve seen TAC around and lever revolution. I do have IMR4895 if I can’t find anything else

 

[Juan_ID]

Not the infamous 77gr tmk but scheels has the 69gr on sale at the moment.

Sierra Tipped MatchKing (TMK) Rifle Bullets

SCHEELS

www.scheels.com

 

[MidGAHunter]

And there are a bunch of 77gr HBPT Match kings in the area. I’m half tempted to get some of those and get some dope put together. I imagine I’ll be able to find some TMK by October and then just tweak/rework the dope. Snow is starting to melt and I’m starting to get restless

I shoot the 77HPBT for practice as (like you said) they are readily available and the TMK I have are reserved for game.

 

[Jeremyc_1999]

I shoot the 77HPBT for practice as (like you said) they are readily available and the TMK I have are reserved for game.

Do you find the ballistics the same (wind drift and drop)

 

[MidGAHunter]

Thanks. I think I’ve seen TAC around and lever revolution. I do have IMR4895 if I can’t find anything else

TAC is readily available and has been reasonably temp stable for me. I do have 4 pounds of 8208 XBR of the same lot just sitting on the shelf unopened because TAC has been great.

 

[MidGAHunter]

Do you find the ballistics the same (wind drift and drop)

Out of my rifle they shoot to the same zero at 100 yards and hold to about a tenth of a mil or so of each other out to 300 yards. Haven't compared them farther than that. I use same powder charge for both (24.5 grains TAC) and same COAL (2.26 I believe).

 

[Smenning]

To no one in particular-

You’re pole vaulting over mouse turds. Take a 77gr TMK, put 23.7gr (or 23.5or 23.3gr) of 8208 in a case (any case), with any standard SR primer, seat it to 2.26” COAL, shoot. That’s it. That combo has shot well in every single 223/5.56 we’ve tried it in.

Is this unique to a gas gun? Would you run the same COAL in a Tikka. Varget?

 

[Juan_ID]

Is this unique to a gas gun? Would you run the same COAL in a Tikka. Varget?

That applies to tikkas as well as the mags are very limiting in regards to coal…

 

[Smenning]

That applies to tikkas as well as the mags are very limiting in regards to coal…

Mountian Tactical .223 mags get you 2.6 COAL… maybe this is where the pole vaulting comment stems from (overthinking)

 

[Juan_ID]

Mountian Tactical .223 mags get you 2.6 COAL… maybe this is where the pole vaulting comment stems from (overthinking)

Maybe so, I questioned a lot of things when I first got my 223 but I don’t think it really matters. If you have the ability to load long and want to then do it, if you don’t want to then load em to 2.26” and shoot’em.

 

[Moose83]

TAC is good, Leverevolution is good- just a bit temp sensitive.

Where does one start and stop with leverevolution? What kind of temp range is it sensitive in? The extreme ends of hot or cold?

 

[Formidilosus]

Where does one start and stop with leverevolution? What kind of temp range is it sensitive in? The extreme ends of hot or cold?

It’s not terrible. I would work up the load or check it at least in the hottest weather you will shoot in. Then check velocity in the coldest, though it won’t change enough to really matter in 223 ranges.

 

[Axlrod]

I have a hunch if you called or emailed Sierra that they would tell you when they anticipate another production batch. If they are in tune with demand, the next batch should be in the works, and it should be a very large quantity.

A few years ago I called Sierra to see when more of their new bullets would be available. Don't remember what they called them, they were black with a blue tip. Anyway the guy on the phone said hold on the production manager is right here. I could here their conversation, the guy said they are running them now, will ship next month. It was 2 years before any were available. I would have zero confidence in anything anyone from Sierra said.

 

[HandgunHTR]

If one cannot find 8202 what powder/load would be your second choice?

AR-Comp is another option. While I haven't used it in a .223 load, I have used it for my 6X45 with 75-90 grain bullets and it performs well.