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All due respect, doesn’t your experience actually state “30 years of military experience would indicate that FMJ’s aren’t a good choice for hunting”?
I'll preface this by stating all of this is a SWAG.I hope this isn't too much of a tangent for this thread, but I have a curiosity. There's so much .223 knowledge and experience in this thread, that I suspect someone knows. Let's dismiss the "why?"
What would you expect a subsonic .223 55 grain soft point to do on a deer head shot at 50 yards and a deer vitals shot at 50 yards? Would it expand? Would expansion be beneficial or a detriment to lethality in either case? How deeply would it penetrate?
Do any of you have experience with subsonic .223 on deer? Either factory or handload.
If you were to undertake the task of developing a subsonic load for a .223 for 50 yard max shots on deer, using a rifle with a 9 twist, how would you go about it?
I hope this isn't too much of a tangent for this thread, but I have a curiosity. There's so much .223 knowledge and experience in this thread, that I suspect someone knows. Let's dismiss the "why?"
What would you expect a subsonic .223 55 grain soft point to do on a deer head shot at 50 yards and a deer vitals shot at 50 yards? Would it expand? Would expansion be beneficial or a detriment to lethality in either case? How deeply would it penetrate?
I don’t at all understand the hard on guys get for subsonic rifle cartridges. Maybe someone can explain.
A subsonic 22 cal, isn’t that basically a 22lr
I want different bullets for each rifle to prevent mixing loads so that eliminates the 77 tmk and 73 eldm.
Would you mind sharing which handguard is on that rifle?Fellas I appreciate all the info from this. I have some 77 tmks for my 20” 223 wylde and some 73 Eldms for my ruger predator.
I now have a new project of a 16” AR with red dot. I want it to be a do all round within 100 yards. Everything from deer to hogs to home defense.
I want different bullets for each rifle to prevent mixing loads so that eliminates the 77 tmk and 73 eldm.
What bullet would you chose besides the 77 tmk and 73 eldm? My shop has Hornady 60 SP but afraid my 1/7 twist will be too fast.
I did a thread search here but everything came back to the 77 and 73.
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Why not just shoot the same ammo?
Do you reload? This is part of the reason I started reloading. Really easy to keep a keg of powder and a few thousand bullets around and have the same exact ammo throughout the life of a barrel.I'm in the process of trying to consolidate to as few components and ammo types as possible. Keeping different ammo for different rifles has been a pain for over a decade.
Well I’m afraid I’ll end up grabbing the wrong box and end up over pressuring or something. Like the 77 tmk load is loaded longer with special mags. I guess I could use the tmk lol
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Would you mind sharing which handguard is on that rifle?
FL resize everything and load the TMK to 2.26oal. Everything will feed/function and you don’t have to deal with the BS.
yes. and even so, consolidation is my current strategy, preferably on stuff that is consistently available. Various components have gone through cycles of poor availbility since at least 2012. We see it in this thread with the 77 tmk and IMR 8208 too.Do you reload? This is part of the reason I started reloading. Really easy to keep a keg of powder and a few thousand bullets around and have the same exact ammo throughout the life of a barrel.
I did nearly the same thing, but at a time when you could actually get 77tmk. I also only have 3 hunting guns, so that helps. 3006, creedmoors and the 223.yes. and even so, consolidation is my current strategy, preferably on stuff that is consistently available. Various components have gone through cycles of poor availbility since at least 2012. We see it in this thread with the 77 tmk and IMR 8208 too.
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I don't have a hard on for it.I don’t at all understand the hard on guys get for subsonic rifle cartridges. Maybe someone can explain.
A subsonic 22 cal, isn’t that basically a 22lr