.223 for bear, deer, elk and moose.

[Sandstrom]

As a PSA, I ordered 200 rounds of black hills 77 grn TMK from creedmoor sports, just over $300 shipped and they shipped right away. Very happy with creedmoor sports.
Ryan

 

[Mike Islander]

As a PSA, I ordered 200 rounds of black hills 77 grn TMK from creedmoor sports, just over $300 shipped and they shipped right away. Very happy with creedmoor sports.
Ryan

Ordered 350 rounds myself. Fast delivery. FedEx $20 shipping for heavy box. Delivered two days after order. Very pleased.

 

[BlackHillsShooter]

Just as an FYI, that’s not a “5.56mm” issue, that’s a screwed up load or case issue.

Shot some hand loads in the Tikka today. Found a decent load for practice.

Fired 5 rounds of the AAC 77gn OTM out of the Wylde chambered AR.



Yes, screw up. I'll let them know. On the other hand, their Sierra 77gn TMK was fine. Just not as accurate as my hand loads.

 

[Formidilosus]

Shot some hand loads in the Tikka today. Found a decent load for practice.

Fired 5 rounds of the AAC 77gn OTM out of the Wylde chambered AR.



Yes, screw up. I'll let them know. On the other hand, their Sierra 77gn TMK was fine. Just not as accurate as my hand loads.

Yes sir.

 

[colby12]

Cabelas in Waco has 200 TMKs on the shelf

 

[Eleven]

Got an e-mail today from Stand1 that their 77gr TMK is back in stock.

 

[5811]

Got an e-mail today from Stand1 that their 77gr TMK is back in stock.

How do they shoot?

 

[Eleven]

How do they shoot?

I've not chronoed them so I can't speak to speed, but they shoot very well in my AR (.223 wylde) and my Ruger American (5.56). Post 3,946 on this thread (one page back) shows some expected results.

 

[h2so4]

Shot some hand loads in the Tikka today. Found a decent load for practice.

Fired 5 rounds of the AAC 77gn OTM out of the Wylde chambered AR.
Yes, screw up. I'll let them know. On the other hand, their Sierra 77gn TMK was fine. Just not as accurate as my hand loads.

Hold on @BlackHillsShooter why aren’t you shooting Black Hills?

 

[LCV]

Anyone planning on trying AAC’s new 75gr “black tip”? Could be a nice cheap option if it performs decent.

 

[robtattoo]

Not sure a 200gn .223 will stabilize in a 1:8.
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1:0.5 maybe

 

[UpSideDown]

@Formidilosus I saw your post where you took an animal with a 77gr TMK impacting about 1500fps, could you share what impact velocity you would trust the following rounds to be efficacious at?

77gr TMK
73gr ELD-M
130gr TMK
140gr ELD-M
147gr ELD-M

I’m curious to the range a Tikka shooting factory loads can be taken to when hunting, though these numbers are certainly useful in a broader context.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus I saw your post where you took an animal with a 77gr TMK impacting about 1500fps, could you share what impact velocity you would trust the following rounds to be efficacious at?

77gr TMK
73gr ELD-M
130gr TMK
140gr ELD-M
147gr ELD-M

I’m curious to the range a Tikka shooting factory loads can be taken to when hunting, though these numbers are certainly useful in a broader context.

1,800fps is where I would suggest keeping them above. Some will work lower, some need a bit more- the TMK’s do a bit better at lower impact sleds, ELD-M’s do a bit better at higher impact speeds, but 1,800fps is where I would suggest as a lower limit for consistent performance.

 

[Jbehredt]

Patiently waiting for the day the new vaporized lung pictures start popping up. Soon, very soon.

 

[FCCDerek]

Well not 180's but 215's

Thats the single best 30 cal mag hunting bullet. It's a solid killer, and very easy to develop a load with. Also, as of last night creedmoor sports had 500 count boxes of 77TMK's in stock. I finally scored some to work up a load for my 22CM with. I'll have that along with my 88ELDM load. Should be a fun fall season with those two. I want to do a side by side comparison. Both will be doing 3050fps give or take out of my 18" 22CM.

 

[MidGAHunter]

Patiently waiting for the day the new vaporized lung pictures start popping up. Soon, very soon.

Plenty of good pictures of damage in this thread. My son (9 year old) killed two whitetails with the 77 TMK last year (my first direct experience with them killing animals) and while I don't have wound pictures, the damage was remarkable. I was a major skeptic when I first started reading this thread back in its early days. Not anymore. The more I read, the more my mind was opened so I jumped in. Glad I did. I'd shoot anything in North America inside 400 yards (personal preference based on my abilities) with the 77TMK after seeing what it does to tissue in person.

 

[PNWGATOR]

Plenty of good pictures of damage in this thread. My son (9 year old) killed two whitetails with the 77 TMK last year (my first direct experience with them killing animals) and while I don't have wound pictures, the damage was remarkable. I was a major skeptic when I first started reading this thread back in its early days. Not anymore. The more I read, the more my mind was opened so I jumped in. Glad I did. I'd shoot anything in North America inside 400 yards (personal preference based on my abilities) with the 77TMK after seeing what it does to tissue in person.

Yes!

Appreciate your willingness to put bias aside and go forth, fill freezers, feed your family and enjoy the process.

 

[Elk botherer]

I’ve been following this thread for a long time and have been converted. I guess I need to post more evidence of the effectiveness of the 77 gr tmk out of the .223.
My nephew has harvested two deer now with the .223/77 tmk combo: first one was at 143 yards and the bullet punched through the neck of the humerus just under the knuckle, went through the top of the heart, the lungs, then through the opposite scapula, and the bullet was then recovered under the hide in the off shoulder. No tracking was required and it went down like a sack of bricks. His second deer was a broadside double lunger at 189 yards away and it made it 15 yards before going hooves up. My daughter shot one doe at 220 yards and it went on a death run/tumble for 30 yards. The wound channels were devastating on them all.
For the fudds and fng posting that this is a marginal combo need to read this thread in its entirety. Tons of empirical data support the effectiveness of it. There is no conjecture or opinion here. The wound channels are in the same ballpark as the 160 gr accubonds out of my 7mm rem mag.
For recoil and muzzle blast sensitive shooters, this is a great way to get them behind a gun and gain skill with proper shooting fundamentals. My daughter did not enjoy shooting her 7mm-08 with reduced loads and after 4 rounds she wouldn’t shoot it any more. Enter the .223/77 gr tmk combo. After the first shot with that combo she looked up at me with shocked look on her face and said, “that’s it? That was easy!” She proceeded to shoot about 30 more rounds and was punching milk jugs past 300 yards when she couldn’t hit a milk jug at 100 yards with the 7mm-08 due to her trepidation of the muzzle blast. This combo saved her hunting future! Thanks Form, PNWGator, and everyone else that has contributed to this thread.

 

[Jbehredt]

Plenty of good pictures of damage in this thread. My son (9 year old) killed two whitetails with the 77 TMK last year (my first direct experience with them killing animals) and while I don't have wound pictures, the damage was remarkable. I was a major skeptic when I first started reading this thread back in its early days. Not anymore. The more I read, the more my mind was opened so I jumped in. Glad I did. I'd shoot anything in North America inside 400 yards (personal preference based on my abilities) with the 77TMK after seeing what it does to tissue in person.

Oh I was an early adopter. I’m jonesing for this seasons new material.

 

[HandgunHTR]

Just picked up 500 of the TMKs from Creedmoor Sports. This should get me through load development for the 223 and the 22 Creed I have yet to build.