.223, 6mm, and 6.5 failures on big game

[eric1115]

My buddies 9 year old son did that with a 223. White poof and a lot of tracking with no deer. Their remedy was to try a 300wm for next season

Oof, poor kid. If that was my buddy I would probably bug him to the point of straining the friendship to look at the .223, 6mm, etc threads and try to convince him to not screw up his kid's shooting experience.

 

[KHntr]

Oof, poor kid. If that was my buddy I would probably bug him to the point of straining the friendship to look at the .223, 6mm, etc threads and try to convince him to not screw up his kid's shooting experience.

Yup. Nothing will improve a 10 yr olds success on deer like upping the Whallop Factor.

 

[Trackselk]

Yup. Nothing will improve a 10 yr olds success on deer like upping the Whallop Factor.

Maybe they should make him balance on one foot also

 

[Choupique]

If my bullet were 3" bigger around, I'd have gotten mine.

 

[IDVortex]

I personally belive in using 155mm rounds. Gives ebough wallop to make sure the animal is dead even when I hit its foot.

 

[Choupique]

155mm rounds.

I said 3 inches, not 6. 6" shells are entirely too big for north American game.

 

[juju]

Can you expound on this a bit more? I am reading it to say that anything smaller than 6mm-.25 cal is not proven on deer. Is that what you are saying?

No. 6mm sucks, not .25. You can find data showing kills attempted and deer recovered for the various calibers. 6mm is the worst. LIterally. .25 works as well as anything assuming traditional shot placement and bullets.

If, however, you are a good shot you can kill a deer with just about anything. I would argue that .223 and .243 are equivalent, excepting recoil in a light rifle. I've not seen any data to back that up, tho.

 

[Grizzle]

No. 6mm sucks, not .25. You can find data showing kills attempted and deer recovered for the various calibers. 6mm is the worst. LIterally. .25 works as well as anything assuming traditional shot placement and bullets.

If, however, you are a good shot you can kill a deer with just about anything. I would argue that .223 and .243 are equivalent, excepting recoil in a light rifle. I've not seen any data to back that up, tho.

Huh?
I'm afraid to ask but where is this "data" on calibers vs killing ability your talking about located?
I think you'll find a LOT of evidence that doesn't agree with your opinion if you spend any time looking

 

[atmat]

No. 6mm sucks, not .25. You can find data showing kills attempted and deer recovered for the various calibers. 6mm is the worst. LIterally.

This is satire, right? There’s no other explanation

 

[roosiebull]

No. 6mm sucks, not .25. You can find data showing kills attempted and deer recovered for the various calibers. 6mm is the worst. LIterally. .25 works as well as anything assuming traditional shot placement and bullets.

If, however, you are a good shot you can kill a deer with just about anything. I would argue that .223 and .243 are equivalent, excepting recoil in a light rifle. I've not seen any data to back that up, tho.

Sounds like some bad juju going on here.

 

[IDVortex]

I said 3 inches, not 6. 6" shells are entirely too big for north American game.

Oh, I thought you were about humane kills
My bad.

 

[juju]

This is satire, right? There’s no other explanation

Nope. Fact. 6mms keep dog trackers in beer money.

 

[IDVortex]

No. 6mm sucks,

So you're saying I'm SOL with my 6arc and not to use it on bear, dear or elk? Damn.

 

[juju]

So you're saying I'm SOL with my 6arc and not to use it on bear, dear or elk? Damn.

Nope, never said that.

 

[Maverick1]

I personally belive in using 155mm rounds. Gives ebough wallop to make sure the animal is dead even when I hit its foot.

How many rounds do you carry while in the field?

 

[IDVortex]

How many rounds do you carry while in the field?

Min of 40, due to any bad shots.

 

[Maverick1]

Min of 40, due to any bad shots.

Yeah, totally understandable. Spotting your misses and everything.

 

[mt100gr.]

Nope. Fact. 6mms keep dog trackers in beer money.

Would you please direct us to these facts? Do you think 6mm is big enough for a giraffe?

 

[JGRaider]

No. 6mm sucks, not .25. You can find data showing kills attempted and deer recovered for the various calibers. 6mm is the worst. LIterally. .25 works as well as anything assuming traditional shot placement and bullets.

If, however, you are a good shot you can kill a deer with just about anything. I would argue that .223 and .243 are equivalent, excepting recoil in a light rifle. I've not seen any data to back that up, tho.

Downright laughable, and that's being nice about it.

 

[ScreamingPotato]

Would you please direct us to these facts? Do you think 6mm is big enough for a giraffe?

Usually those types of posts end up to a link to some article on Eastman's or a YouTube vid from some random "outdoors" profile.