2.5-15x: The ideal hunting scope?

[ResearchinStuff]

Welcome back!

 

[SDHNTR]

Hey crew,
I'll be entirely honest I dropped the ball on this thread. Through some combination of not seeing alerts and time away this month, a bunch of responses went unanswered. Ghosting was not intentional. Though @ResearchinStuff is spot on about kids and weeding, or folding laundry, walking the dog, or anything outside of snacks and gifts.

Some of our posts are market research. We also want to see other folks' opinions about everything from throw levers to illuminated reticles. We don't just want to mine opinions; we want to encourage conversation in the forum.

So, the long short, thank you guys for all of the comments, suggestions, critiques, jokes, and the like.

Can you please explain the logic behind illuminating the SFP model but not the FFP?

 

[Mark.c]

I started with a Leupold 4.5-14x50 then got a 3-9x40. My next will likely be in the 2-10x42 ish range Swarovski Z6i. I have never taken hunting shots with over 10x on the scope, my longest being 400 yards on an elk. I do however prefer SFP scopes and dial for ranges past maximum point blank range.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Can you please explain the logic behind illuminating the SFP model but not the FFP?

And answer some of the other questions that have been posed?

 

[JW@TRACT]

And answer some of the other questions that have been posed?

I may not be able to get all of them answered in the course of a few hours but I will get them to the people most influential in their creation.

 

[JGRaider]

I may not be able to get all of them answered in the course of a few hours but I will get them to the people most influential in their creation.

I'm a huge Tract fan, but this is pisspoor form on your part.

 

[SDHNTR]

I may not be able to get all of them answered in the course of a few hours but I will get them to the people most influential in their creation.

Say what? I’m now even more baffled by your evasiveness. I hope I’m misunderstanding you.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

don't sweat it man, I'll just delete my questions from the thread and move on.

 

[ljalberta]

I may not be able to get all of them answered in the course of a few hours but I will get them to the people most influential in their creation.

This seems like a great response. The person running the social media account said they might not be able to provide all the answers in the next few hours. I don’t know a lot of companies that have the lead designers running the social media accounts.

But they’re going to go take them to those designers and get some answers. Looking forward to reading the eventual responses.

 

[SDHNTR]

This seems like a great response. The person running the social media account said they might not be able to provide all the answers in the next few hours. I don’t know a lot of companies that have the lead designers running the social media accounts.

But they’re going to go take them to those designers and get some answers. Looking forward to reading the eventual responses.

Interesting. This is where the written word can be misinterpreted. Yeah, if that’s what this means, I’m ok with it. Get us the right answers and provide some thoughtful responses. Hopefully it’s not a stall tactic.

By the same token, however, I’d also think that anyone who is putting themselves out there as a representative of Tract should also be able to answer some of these very basic questions.

 

[260madman]

So it’s not one of the owners account?

 

[JW@TRACT]

So to answer @SDHNTR as to why TRACT has an illuminated SFP scope in the lineup and not an FFP: The idea was to try to keep the FFP model as light as possible. There have been concerns raised in this thread and others about scope weight, which is valid regardless of the manufacturer. However, we are working on an illuminated FFP model that will be available sometime late next year.

 

[SDHNTR]

I think you missed my point. I understand light. Most hunters want light. Most hunters also shoot SFP. SFP is more useable at lower power due to the thicker reticle. SFP, therefore, naturally should have less need for an illuminated reticle.

Flip side, most FFP scopes are more tactical in nature and are more specialized tools used by long range hunters if they are used by hunters at all. Long range guns and those more engaged in tactical needs and competitions don’t mind a few more ounces. Furthermore, an FFP reticle is much harder to see at lower powers and illumination reduces or eliminates that issue. Which in my mind means the FFP shoulda been the one lit if you were only gonna light one. Sorry Tract, In my opinion, you got this one backwards.

Of course the ideal solution is to offer illuminated options in both styles. Glad you are working on that.

 

[amassi]

So to answer @SDHNTR as to why TRACT has an illuminated SFP scope in the lineup and not an FFP: The idea was to try to keep the FFP model as light as possible. There have been concerns raised in this thread and others about scope weight, which is valid regardless of the manufacturer. However, we are working on an illuminated FFP model that will be available sometime late next year.

Another option if counting ounces in your ffp line would be a reticle with bold posts on the windage and bottom post.
Bring your windage and bottom posts in to 5mils
No one is holding 10 mils of windage and if your turret functions not a lot of holdover either.
That would produce a functional ffp reticle without adding illume

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[ljalberta]

I agree that the FFP reticle could be improved. But in all fairness to Tract, I know a lot of people who for whatever reason want illuminated SFP scopes.

I think there is a market for a 18-20oz FFP scope that is non illuminated. As set out in a number of threads on this site, if a reliable and durable FFP scope with a decent hunting reticle is ever made in that weight range, I think it will do decent with some of the crowd on here. I just think the majority of the hunting world still doesn’t know anything besides moa and sfp.

 

[JW@TRACT]

I think you missed my point. I understand light. Most hunters want light. Most hunters also shoot SFP. SFP is more useable at lower power due to the thicker reticle. SFP, therefore, naturally should have less need for an illuminated reticle.

Flip side, most FFP scopes are more tactical in nature and are more specialized tools used by long range hunters if they are used by hunters at all. Long range guns and those more engaged in tactical needs and competitions don’t mind a few more ounces. Furthermore, an FFP reticle is much harder to see at lower powers and illumination reduces or eliminates that issue. Which in my mind means the FFP shoulda been the one lit if you were only gonna light one. Sorry Tract, In my opinion, you got this one backwards.

Of course the ideal solution is to offer illuminated options in both styles. Glad you are working on that.

Solid points.