1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[RockAndSage]

@Formidilosus , the Ed Brown Evos and the Kimber Next Generation 1911s look pretty interesting in giving a single-stack a go, but almost all of them seem to have bobtail frames. What was your experience with them again, in terms of how it impacted shootability, compared to normal frames?

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus , the Ed Brown Evos and the Kimber Next Generation 1911s look pretty interesting in giving a single-stack a go, but almost all of them seem to have bobtail frames. What was your experience with them again, in terms of how it impacted shootability, compared to normal frames?

I can’t stand bobtails. As in- not an option I will accept at all.

The bottom of the grip is missing in my hand- that’s what it feels like. There is a small objective difference in shooting, but a very large perception difference to me.


And they look stupid.

 

[NSI]

It's real close in size, NSI.

Jumping in: who do we like for the kind of work you describe? I have a Colt I'd like to have front serrations added, ceracote blown off and an ambi safety installed...I've been procrastinating on doing that last one myself.

I was thinking Hayes or KC's... but also curious who others would choose.

-J

 

[RockAndSage]

I can’t stand bobtails. As in- not an option I will accept at all.

The bottom of the grip is missing in my hand- that’s what it feels like. There is a small objective difference in shooting, but a very large perception difference to me.


And they look stupid.

Lol, bobtails' parents didn't have any children that lived.

 

[2Stamp]

I can’t stand bobtails....

And they look stupid.

Lol, NOT Form approved.

 

[Dave0317]

If a particular 1911 has all the features you like, but comes bobtail only, like a 4.25 inch TRP that comes bobtail only, there is this:

Bobtail Regrets Mainspring Housing 25 LPI SS

Transform your bobtail 1911 with the Bobtail Regrets Mainspring Housing from Evolution Gun Works. Enjoy enhanced grip and premium quality for superior performance.

egwguns.com

 

[Howler65]

Who's got Springfield EMP experience, particularly in the 4" format?

I've got my bad idea jeans on. Considering a variety of net worth reduction techniques:

1) Convince someone to A-cut one for a COA (is there even enough width?)

2) Convince someone to bury a Bowmar (is there even enough length?)

3) Send to a smith to mill front cocking serrations and install a roll trigger (probably the only rational idea here)

4) Send to a smith to somehow attach a light rail or some other provision to carry with a TLR-7

I should probably just buy a second C but I'm curious about the single stack 9mm reduced grip world.

-J

OG Single Stack C. Mine is very accurate and shoots great.

 

[Dobermann]

Who's got Springfield EMP experience, particularly in the 4" format?

I've got my bad idea jeans on. Considering a variety of net worth reduction techniques:

1) Convince someone to A-cut one for a COA (is there even enough width?)

2) Convince someone to bury a Bowmar (is there even enough length?)

3) Send to a smith to mill front cocking serrations and install a roll trigger (probably the only rational idea here)

4) Send to a smith to somehow attach a light rail or some other provision to carry with a TLR-7

I should probably just buy a second C but I'm curious about the single stack 9mm reduced grip world.

-J

One option for a 4.25" single-stack with light rail and optics mounting system is the new Bul SOF (https://www.global.bularmory.com/product-page/sof):

 

[43.6N]

One option for a 4.25" single-stack with light rail and optics mounting system is the new Bul SOF (https://www.global.bularmory.com/product-page/sof):

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Or 4.25” Springfield operator with some tasteful upgrades:

 

[Dobermann]

Or 4.25” Springfield operator with some tasteful upgrades:
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Needs a smaller light, methinks ...

 

[43.6N]

Needs a smaller light, methinks ...

Ha. I don’t disagree.

 

[2Stamp]

Needs a smaller light, methinks ...

Nah, you need ALL the lumens...

 

[id_jon]

Nah, you need ALL the lumens...

But you can get most of the lumens for 1/10 the run time in 1/3 the size

 

[RockAndSage]

But you can get most of the lumens for 1/10 the run time in 1/3 the size

Speaking of lumens, I could use some advice on upgrading my pistol lights.

I've busted 3 switches now on TLR-7 HL-Xs, to the point where I keep a spare light on hand and just rotate it out. Size and performance are perfect for the CCW gun, but I want to get something bigger, more robust, and more reliable for OWB types of applications. The light needs to reach out to100yds effectively, and it needs to soundly cause pain and temp blindness on a target.

Top contenders are the Surefire 300 Turbo, and the Modlite PL350.

Any big pros or cons with either of these? Anything else I should consider?

 

[2Stamp]

But you can get most of the lumens for 1/10 the run time in 1/3 the size

Yes, but that's not ALL of them...

 

[2Stamp]

Speaking of lumens, I could use some advice on upgrading my pistol lights.

I've busted 3 switches now on TLR-7 HL-Xs, to the point where I keep a spare light on hand and just rotate it out. Size and performance are perfect for the CCW gun, but I want to get something bigger, more robust, and more reliable for OWB types of applications. The light needs to reach out to100yds effectively, and it needs to soundly cause pain and temp blindness on a target.

Top contenders are the Surefire 300 Turbo, and the Modlite PL350.

Any big pros or cons with either of these? Anything else I should consider?

The X300U has a higher output (1000 vs 650) than the Turbo with 15min less time, but I can't remember if it has a little wider "hot spot" than the Turbo. Both are same price. I don't have any time with the modlite.

The x300U is bright as hell. It lit up a mountain lion at around 170yds behind my house last year, FWIW.

 

[RockAndSage]

The X300U has a higher output (1000 vs 650) than the Turbo with 15min less time, but I can't remember if it has a little wider "hot spot" than the Turbo. Both are same price. I don't have any time with the modlite.

The x300U is bright as hell. It lit up a mountain lion at around 170yds behind my house last year, FWIW.

That sounds pretty appealing, thanks for the clarification on model too. How is it on the inside of a house? Too much at all?

 

[cubdriver84d]

If a particular 1911 has all the features you like, but comes bobtail only, like a 4.25 inch TRP that comes bobtail only, there is this:

Bobtail Regrets Mainspring Housing 25 LPI SS

Transform your bobtail 1911 with the Bobtail Regrets Mainspring Housing from Evolution Gun Works. Enjoy enhanced grip and premium quality for superior performance.

egwguns.com

You have any experience with those?

 

[43.6N]

Speaking of lumens, I could use some advice on upgrading my pistol lights.

I've busted 3 switches now on TLR-7 HL-Xs, to the point where I keep a spare light on hand and just rotate it out. Size and performance are perfect for the CCW gun, but I want to get something bigger, more robust, and more reliable for OWB types of applications. The light needs to reach out to100yds effectively, and it needs to soundly cause pain and temp blindness on a target.

Top contenders are the Surefire 300 Turbo, and the Modlite PL350.

Any big pros or cons with either of these? Anything else I should consider?

The PL350 is pretty stout. On par with highly regarded rifle lights IMO. Easy 200yd throw. I had one of the old 650lumen X300’s, and the mod light blew its doors off. I can’t compare it to any of the new gen X300’s though.

It is slightly longer than the x300’s. And gives a little muzzle standoff on the G34 and 5” Kimber. But still fits in the X300 safariland holster. I know the Tenicor velo Lux specifically states that they fit the pl350.
Here are a few pics showing the muzzle standoff with what I had on hand:


(And the TLR1 actually tucks in pretty well with the Tenicor holster. Surprisingly comfy).

As far as other lights to consider:
The new cloud EPL has my attention as far as something new. I’ve very much liked my other cloud products. But will wait until a little more info about it starts to circulate from users.

 

[RockAndSage]

The PL350 is pretty stout. On par with highly regarded rifle lights IMO. Easy 200yd throw. I had one of the old 650lumen X300’s, and the mod light blew its doors off. I can’t compare it to any of the new gen X300’s though.

It is slightly longer than the x300’s. And gives a little muzzle standoff on the G34 and 5” Kimber. But still fits in the X300 safariland holster. I know the Tenicor velo Lux specifically states that they fit the pl350.
Here are a few pics showing the muzzle standoff with what I had on hand:
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(And the TLR1 actually tucks in pretty well with the Tenicor holster. Surprisingly comfy).

As far as other lights to consider:
The new cloud EPL has my attention as far as something new. I’ve very much liked my other cloud products. But will wait until a little more info about it starts to circulate from users.

That's awesome, thank you. Appreciate the details, and sharing those photos. Holsters are one of the bigger concerns about the modlite, so that helps a lot.