1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

I’ve got a few more holsters inbound to check out. For my C (2024) got in hand the Velo5 and TT Gunleather for AIWB and IWB 3 o’clock respectively. I’ve ordered for the CS (2024) a TT Gunleather and G-Code Phenom Stealth, both for AIWB. I will report back.
 
Out of curiosity, what do you carry these days, Form?

A hand built full-size 1911 in 9mm. Before that it was a Springfield Professional.

But I have and do carry a variety of pistols given circumstances- 2011’s, M18/17’s, G19/G45’s, etc.


And why that over a 2011?

Because a properly built 9mm 1911 has no equal in shootability. It is more forgiving in grip, trigger press, and torque than any other pistol- including 2011’s…. And the more stressed you are, the more tired, the more injured- the larger the difference. The 1911 is also thinner and easier to conceal.

My base requirement of performance for a “carry” pistol is “speed bullseye”- and a proper 1911 owns that world.
 
You can rock no belt with a Leisure carry thinger. Works great with sweats or gym shorts.
Just reinforces the waist band. Ha I was doing dry fire drills with my Kimcatto the other day using it with my pj pants the other day.

Put another 100+ through the 2k11 yesterday. Still no failures.
 
You can rock no belt with a Leisure carry thinger. Works great with sweats or gym shorts.
Just reinforces the waist band. Ha I was doing dry fire drills with my Kimcatto the other day using it with my pj pants the other day.

Put another 100+ through the 2k11 yesterday. Still no failures.

Did manage to take a cotton tail for the soup pot at 50 yards, right behind the shoulder. Didn't go 20
Don't think I'd have been able to do that with a Glock.
 
Im not who you asked, but I love that style of drill, if it is what I understand him to mean.

Maybe like this…

That makes sense, and is how I've largely been wired too - especially with what you could call practical precision/combat precision/quick precision, etc. Though, admittedly, I've historically overfocused on precision, but recently had a pretty big breakthrough on the speed side of things. That's why when @Formidilosus mentioned "speed bullseye" it caught my attention. He's shared FBI pistol-instructor qual standards before, which sound like this and similar to the Defoor video you posted, but I was wondering if speed bullseye was an actual thing, or if he had set drills and standards he'd developed for his own priorities on that skillset.

I personally think it's a critical concept, and a largely neglected one. Especially for anyone who might need to use a handgun outside of the classic conversation-distance encounters, or who can't afford risking the dangers of anything other than an instant stop to a threat. But it just doesn't seem to get much attention - guys are either banging-away at close in go-fast stuff, or executing on B8s at combat-glacial pace. That video you posted is a great blend.

I don't really have an exact term for it, but this is what I mean by quick precision - current drill is 5yds, cut color with a hit, under 2 seconds draw and fire. But I'd be very interested in learning of others that get at speed precision, especially from the draw. Right now, most of my shots are hovering around 1.5 seconds. The ace is obviously a cherry-picked example, and the 3s are more typical, but on any given day about half of my draw-and-fire shots are cutting the spot under par time, with about 90% of the rest within a bullet's width of touching color:
 

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That makes sense, and is how I've largely been wired too - especially with what you could call practical precision/combat precision/quick precision, etc. Though, admittedly, I've historically overfocused on precision, but recently had a pretty big breakthrough on the speed side of things. That's why when @Formidilosus mentioned "speed bullseye" it caught my attention. He's shared FBI pistol-instructor qual standards before, which sound like this and similar to the Defoor video you posted, but I was wondering if speed bullseye was an actual thing, or if he had set drills and standards he'd developed for his own priorities on that skillset.

I personally think it's a critical concept, and a largely neglected one. Especially for anyone who might need to use a handgun outside of the classic conversation-distance encounters, or who can't afford risking the dangers of anything other than an instant stop to a threat. But it just doesn't seem to get much attention - guys are either banging-away at close in go-fast stuff, or executing on B8s at combat-glacial pace. That video you posted is a great blend.

I don't really have an exact term for it, but this is what I mean by quick precision - current drill is 5yds, cut color with a hit, under 2 seconds draw and fire. But I'd be very interested in learning of others that get at speed precision, especially from the draw. Right now, most of my shots are hovering around 1.5 seconds. The ace is obviously a cherry-picked example, and the 3s are more typical, but on any given day about half of my draw-and-fire shots are cutting the spot under par time, with about 90% of the rest within a bullet's width of touching color:
Since you mention “from the draw”


10 individual iterations of draw and shoot one round. 3.5 second par time. No misses allowed, one of the 10 shots can go over time.

Best I’ve done is getting all under time, 8/10 hits. So technically a fail, but I’m working on it.
 
Since you mention “from the draw”


10 individual iterations of draw and shoot one round. 3.5 second par time. No misses allowed, one of the 10 shots can go over time.

Best I’ve done is getting all under time, 8/10 hits. So technically a fail, but I’m working on it.

Dude, that's perfect. A couple of good friends have trained with Pressburg, and speak quite highly of his coursework, but somehow I'd never actually seen the actual "no fail" drill or its specific standards. Thanks for posting that, it's exactly the kind of thing I was thinking of.
 
That makes sense, and is how I've largely been wired too - especially with what you could call practical precision/combat precision/quick precision, etc. Though, admittedly, I've historically overfocused on precision, but recently had a pretty big breakthrough on the speed side of things. That's why when @Formidilosus mentioned "speed bullseye" it caught my attention. He's shared FBI pistol-instructor qual standards before, which sound like this and similar to the Defoor video you posted, but I was wondering if speed bullseye was an actual thing, or if he had set drills and standards he'd developed for his own priorities on that skillset.

I personally think it's a critical concept, and a largely neglected one. Especially for anyone who might need to use a handgun outside of the classic conversation-distance encounters, or who can't afford risking the dangers of anything other than an instant stop to a threat. But it just doesn't seem to get much attention - guys are either banging-away at close in go-fast stuff, or executing on B8s at combat-glacial pace. That video you posted is a great blend.

I don't really have an exact term for it, but this is what I mean by quick precision - current drill is 5yds, cut color with a hit, under 2 seconds draw and fire. But I'd be very interested in learning of others that get at speed precision, especially from the draw. Right now, most of my shots are hovering around 1.5 seconds. The ace is obviously a cherry-picked example, and the 3s are more typical, but on any given day about half of my draw-and-fire shots are cutting the spot under par time, with about 90% of the rest within a bullet's width of touching color:
@RockAndSage @Dave0317 good drills, thanks for posting.
“Speed-bullseye” I think is going to be similar in ethos to reports on how @Formidilosus coaches up the students in the S2H courses. IE “on demand” and “under stress”

Heart rate probably needs to be elevated. And there probably needs to be a time standard.

My personal bias: since getting introduced to USPSA 3 months ago (because of this thread) the combo of footwork and accuracy is what jumped out in my mind when I hear “speed bullseye”

I’ve been hammering the following drill religiously. And, I’ve got myself down to a consistent 25 seconds. The single fastest time I’ve been able to find someone complete it in was 18 and change. So until someone can post a faster time, I would say that’s probably the 100th percentile.

Figure 5 drill.

10” plate (but “speed bullseye” would probably require a B8 or 10-8 fbi scoring target)
-center position is 15yds.
-2 near positions are 10yds
-2 far positions are 20yds.
-single shot from each position, returning to center each time. 9shots total.
 
@RockAndSage @Dave0317 good drills, thanks for posting.
“Speed-bullseye” I think is going to be similar in ethos to reports on how @Formidilosus coaches up the students in the S2H courses. IE “on demand” and “under stress”

Heart rate probably needs to be elevated. And there probably needs to be a time standard.

My personal bias: since getting introduced to USPSA 3 months ago (because of this thread) the combo of footwork and accuracy is what jumped out in my mind when I hear “speed bullseye”

I’ve been hammering the following drill religiously. And, I’ve got myself down to a consistent 25 seconds. The single fastest time I’ve been able to find someone complete it in was 18 and change. So until someone can post a faster time, I would say that’s probably the 100th percentile.

Figure 5 drill.

10” plate (but “speed bullseye” would probably require a B8 or 10-8 fbi scoring target)
-center position is 15yds.
-2 near positions are 10yds
-2 far positions are 20yds.
-single shot from each position, returning to center each time. 9shots total.
This will be my homework this week, as well as Joey Saurlands recent drill here: https://www.instagram.com/goshootwin/reel/DWpL98hEXmI/
 
@RockAndSage @Dave0317 good drills, thanks for posting.
“Speed-bullseye” I think is going to be similar in ethos to reports on how @Formidilosus coaches up the students in the S2H courses. IE “on demand” and “under stress”

Heart rate probably needs to be elevated. And there probably needs to be a time standard.

My personal bias: since getting introduced to USPSA 3 months ago (because of this thread) the combo of footwork and accuracy is what jumped out in my mind when I hear “speed bullseye”

I’ve been hammering the following drill religiously. And, I’ve got myself down to a consistent 25 seconds. The single fastest time I’ve been able to find someone complete it in was 18 and change. So until someone can post a faster time, I would say that’s probably the 100th percentile.

Figure 5 drill.

10” plate (but “speed bullseye” would probably require a B8 or 10-8 fbi scoring target)
-center position is 15yds.
-2 near positions are 10yds
-2 far positions are 20yds.
-single shot from each position, returning to center each time. 9shots total.

Oh man, that's a great one, especially for cardio elevation and conditioning to move out with speed. How are the positions set up exactly? Is it like a 5-spot on dice? And, are the distances to the target itself, or to the target's line?
 
Oh man, that's a great one, especially for cardio elevation and conditioning to move out with speed. How are the positions set up exactly? Is it like a 5-spot on dice? And, are the distances to the target itself, or to the target's line?
Just like a 5 spot on a dice.
10, 15, and 20 yd target lines
Each of the 4 corners are 10yds from the next corner. So 10x10 square.
Run the positions in whatever order gets you the fastest time. But have to start in center, and move back to center after each shot.
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Just like a 5 spot on a dice.
10, 15, and 20 yd target lines
Each of the 4 corners are 10yds from the next corner. So 10x10 square.
Run the positions in whatever order gets you the fastest time. But have to start in center, and move back to center after each shot.
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This is awesome, thanks for drawing that out. What a kick-ass drill.
 
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