1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[HighUintas]

In theory, yes, though I'd be sure to look through the sight before buying it to check for bloom, especially if you have any astigmatism or eye issues. Generally speaking, the cheaper the RDS, the lower the quality the emitter and the lens coatings. Learned this the hard way - on paper, one of the holosun enclosed pistol sights seemed excellent for a CCW gun, but once it arrived, it was literally unusable for me, the bloom was so bad. Green dots also seem to be worse for it than red dots. Thus far, I've been 100% satisfied with crispness of the dots on 2 Trijicon pistol RDS's, and an Aimpoint M4S.

As long as the dot's fine though, yes, in dry fire a cheap optic should be just as good as expensive in learning trigger press.

That said...there's just no replacement for quality, especially when you end up spending more eventually to do it right the second time. I can't give a recommendation on what cheap ones might work, but I know I've never had a Trijicon fail in about 50k rounds across 1 RMR and 1 RMR HD. Admittedly though, my data set on RDS's is pretty small, with just the two pistol optics.

I would only be using it for dry fire if I went cheap. Thanks!

 

[Steve300xcw]

When you say green's easier to see - we talking ability to pick up quickly, different light, etc, or are you getting less bloom with green?

Both I guess. I would loose a red dot on a bright sunny day unless I had it cranked way up. Which then would start to bloom out..

Also. Only green I have really played with has been that 6moa dot. So that might skew things a bit as well

 

[Steve300xcw]

I would only be using it for dry fire if I went cheap. Thanks!

You say that now....

 

[43.6N]

Just ordered a roll trigger kit from KC. Looking forward to putting it into action

 

[cubdriver84d]

So, how are the Kimber DS Warrior 1911's doing? I mean if ya found a Kimber Warrior DS and Tisas 2011 Carry or Full size, what are yall choosing? I thought I read Kimber was coming out with a 4.25 Warrior, but now I cant find any info, course I could have got it mixed up with something else.

Seeing positive reports on the warriors. Although they still have an internal extractor vs the external in the 2k11s. Not sure if that’s worth the $800 difference though.

 

[Dobermann]

One thing that struck me in some of the early announcements / 'reviews' of the Warrior was people talking about them being a model that is 'less than' the 2K11 - phrases such as 'cut some costs', 'reduced features' and so on ... the overall impression was the Warriors could be significantly 'less than' the 2K11s in features and performance.

I guess time will tell if any of that means problems for the Warrior platform as such. And whether future reviews talk about the Warrior for what it is, rather than it being compared semi-negatively to the 2K11.

You'd hope that Kimber having apparently taken on feedback from some experienced heavy users and modifying the 2K would mean that they have a lot of experience to put into the Warrior. In some ways, this might be a better approach than when a company makes a 'good enough' base model, and then tries for something advanced, but falls short. Will be interesting to see the longer-term reviews.

 

[Bearsniper]

I’m pretty impressed my ds warrior so far, for me it’s just outclassed by the staccato c. So far, I’d say mine is worth the money. It feels like what the prodigy should have been. Trigger is better imo than my staccato P and slide to frame fit is about the same. It also came with an rmr optics plate. Could be sprung a little on the stiff side.

As far as cutting costs, the grip is nice, trigger is good, and the tolerances seem tight. Looks like it even has the marvel cut to smooth the ride over the disconnector, which is pretty fancy. I read somewhere that Kimber sent some employees incognito to Bob Marvel’s classes, so maybe they learned something. The sights are better than most guns in its price range (blacked out rear, tritium front). I think they cut costs with cerakote, aluminum frame, and going with a bushing design. I’d like to find a reason to keep it, but I just can’t justify keeping it and the C. I’ve been shopping around for 1911/2011 for a while and I think it would be tough to find a current production 1911/2011 that is better built for the price. That said, this is a sample of one. Also, it’s on the lighter side, so if you want a heavier/plusher gun you might want something different.

 

[Formidilosus]

I’m pretty impressed my ds warrior so far, for me it’s just outclassed by the staccato c. So far, I’d say mine is worth the money. It feels like what the prodigy should have been. Trigger is better imo than my staccato P and slide to frame fit is about the same. It also came with an rmr optics plate. Could be sprung a little on the stiff side.

As far as cutting costs, the grip is nice, trigger is good, and the tolerances seem tight. Looks like it even has the marvel cut to smooth the ride over the disconnector, which is pretty fancy. I read somewhere that Kimber sent some employees incognito to Bob Marvel’s classes, so maybe they learned something. The sights are better than most guns in its price range (blacked out rear, tritium front). I think they cut costs with cerakote, aluminum frame, and going with a bushing design. I’d like to find a reason to keep it, but I just can’t justify keeping it and the C. I’ve been shopping around for 1911/2011 for a while and I think it would be tough to find a current production 1911/2011 that is better built for the price. That said, this is a sample of one. Also, it’s on the lighter side, so if you want a heavier/plusher gun you might want something different.

Where are you located?

 

[Bearsniper]

Texas

 

[Brendan]

What's the consensus on a 9mm Nighthawk? Don't own any 1911's, have always wanted one, and prefer a 9mm. I like the look of the president / 5" government. I know they're expensive, I'd only be buying one of them and have some cash lying around from selling gear and stuff I don't need so that's not a factor.

Feel like Nighthawk might be the "Easy Button" for me as I also live in a regulated state, so can't just order or buy what I want (for example, finding a Springfield Professional - Good luck with that). Nighthawk is on our roster so can get them. Sig, S&W, Colt, Kimber are available depending on the model. I like the idea of something nice, that shoots well, and I'm not going to have issues with.

Another Option, Greg Derr is local to me, there's a chance I could get him to build me something as I've had him do some work in the past and I know he's well regarded. Or, potentially buy / assemble from parts as I think that's allowed from the roster perspective.