1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

I can see how the C is the best all around option. If one were to primarily use one of these for uspsa/2 gun/etc and likely never carry it, would the P offer enough of a benefit over the C to choose it? Or are the gains marginal enough that the C’s overall utility and non-measurable differences in those settings (competition) not justify giving up the benefit of the C? I picked both models up in the store and while the P feels better in my hands, if there’s no appreciable difference I’d rather have the more well rounded version. Curious to hear your thoughts

Well, the grip is substantially larger in the P (or any other true 2011 mag version) than the C. Even for competing I would rather have the C for that reason, and .4” of barrel isn’t enough difference to matter.
 
@Formidilosus slightly off topic but do you have a specific breed of 9mm ammo you recommend for woods/ grizzly carry?

I’m not recommending anything. I use heavy hard cast, 147gr HST/Speer Gold Dot/G2, and even flat point FMJ’s at times personally. The G9 Defense Woodsmen ammo is really good in straight line penetration, but I can’t get a single pistol to shoot them worth a flip (6-8” groups at 25 yards versus sub 2” from any decent normal ammo); not only that but the POI is drastically off from all other ammo.

The safe answer is BB 147gr Hardcast.


Are things like the lehigh xtreme penetrator/ defender types marketing hype or actually bridge the gap between hollow point and hardcast?

I wouldn’t say they bridge the gap between HP and hard cast, but they do penetrate fine.
 
Excuse my ignorance as I know basically nothing about pistols but is this the extractor you’re talking about? About to order a tisas b9r.
May as well get a short trigger from Wilson if ordering. They charge a good bit for shipping regardless.
 
Well, the grip is substantially larger in the P (or any other true 2011 mag version) than the C. Even for competing I would rather have the C for that reason, and .4” of barrel isn’t enough difference to matter.
Interesting. So pistols like the Tisas b9rds are using P sized grips not C sized grips due to use of standard 2011 mags?

-J
 
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