1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[Formidilosus]

I can see how the C is the best all around option. If one were to primarily use one of these for uspsa/2 gun/etc and likely never carry it, would the P offer enough of a benefit over the C to choose it? Or are the gains marginal enough that the C’s overall utility and non-measurable differences in those settings (competition) not justify giving up the benefit of the C? I picked both models up in the store and while the P feels better in my hands, if there’s no appreciable difference I’d rather have the more well rounded version. Curious to hear your thoughts

Well, the grip is substantially larger in the P (or any other true 2011 mag version) than the C. Even for competing I would rather have the C for that reason, and .4” of barrel isn’t enough difference to matter.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus slightly off topic but do you have a specific breed of 9mm ammo you recommend for woods/ grizzly carry?

I’m not recommending anything. I use heavy hard cast, 147gr HST/Speer Gold Dot/G2, and even flat point FMJ’s at times personally. The G9 Defense Woodsmen ammo is really good in straight line penetration, but I can’t get a single pistol to shoot them worth a flip (6-8” groups at 25 yards versus sub 2” from any decent normal ammo); not only that but the POI is drastically off from all other ammo.

The safe answer is BB 147gr Hardcast.

Are things like the lehigh xtreme penetrator/ defender types marketing hype or actually bridge the gap between hollow point and hardcast?

I wouldn’t say they bridge the gap between HP and hard cast, but they do penetrate fine.

 

[Castle Rock]

I believe theoretically that a commander should’ve the better in 9mm than a 5”. But I cannot say that I’ve seen that okay out in real life 1911’s.

That is not really a thing, the proof is all the match guns in 38 super with extended barrels that run faultlessly

 

[Bluumoon]

Excuse my ignorance as I know basically nothing about pistols but is this the extractor you’re talking about? About to order a tisas b9r.

May as well get a short trigger from Wilson if ordering. They charge a good bit for shipping regardless.

 

[Bc45]

May as well get a short trigger from Wilson if ordering. They charge a good bit for shipping regardless.

What style did you go with?

 

[Bluumoon]

What style did you go with?

What style did you go with?

Short stainless one. Required some fitting, just needed to file the top a bit.

 

[Bluumoon]

 

[Formidilosus]

That is not really a thing, the proof is all the match guns in 38 super with extended barrels that run faultlessly

Do what? What does 38 super have to do with 9mm in 1911’s?

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Do what? What does 38 super have to do with 9mm in 1911’s?

Just guessing...

Tisas 1911A1 DESPERADO - .38 Super/9MM

 

[Formidilosus]

Just guessing...

Tisas 1911A1 DESPERADO - .38 Super/9MM

38 super is a very different cartridge than 9mm, and does not have the same issue in 1911’s that 9mm has.

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

38 super is a very different cartridge than 9mm, and does not have the same issue in 1911’s that 9mm has.

Yeah I just noticed Tisas has a 1911 model that's chambered to shoot both 38 super and 9mm.