1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[rileybassman]

I left the factory oil on the friction points. I suppose I could give it a little evo or light weight synthetic at this point. Just wanted to see how it did out of the box.

A lot of factory lubes used by manufacturers are optimized for corrosion resistance vs lubrication. I would take it down and give it a good cleaning and use a quality oil on friction points, check for ramp smoothness, check extractor/mags, and then go have fun.

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[Bluumoon]

What should I be looking at on mags? Aside from not dropping them in dusty dirt every time, anything to make them eject more reliably?

Another 150rounds through today after disassembly, clean and oil. Mag dumped the last mag and as I ejected the mag I saw a shell simultaneously get kicked out. Otherwise no issues. Seems a like it ran a little smoother, def chambered smoother on 1st round.

 

[FZMT]

The C, CS, and HD are really easy choices for a pistol if you don’t mind the larger grip. In general they are a fantastic. Unfortunately, there really isn’t any similar options to the 9mm 1911’s. Probably in the best option for sub $3,000 1911 9mm, is finding a used Springfield Professional. Those pistols are excellent on average.






As above, I’d probably try to find a Springfield Professional in 9mm for sub $3k.

Between the single stack C, double stack C, and CS for a carry gun is there a “best option”? I bought a Tisas Carry DS which has been reliable and fun to shoot.

 

[RussDXT]

Between the single stack C, double stack C, and CS for a carry gun is there a “best option”? I bought a Tisas Carry DS which has been reliable and fun to shoot.

6’3” 200lb size 9 glove for whatever it’s worth.

If your running appendix the full-size c ds, if not the cs.

 

[AirborneEScouter]

The 2311 grip shape/size sucks. A standard Staccato/2011 grip is better. The Staccato C and CS are overall the best carry/duty/everything factory pistols on the market.

If you get a Staccato C or CS, use it, ask me any questions you like, and if after giving it a full on serious training time decide you don’t like it- I’ll buy it from you.

I can see how the C is the best all around option. If one were to primarily use one of these for uspsa/2 gun/etc and likely never carry it, would the P offer enough of a benefit over the C to choose it? Or are the gains marginal enough that the C’s overall utility and non-measurable differences in those settings (competition) not justify giving up the benefit of the C? I picked both models up in the store and while the P feels better in my hands, if there’s no appreciable difference I’d rather have the more well rounded version. Curious to hear your thoughts

 

[Bluumoon]

Another hundred rounds, no ejection issues, mags don’t always eject freely. Hit the front of the mag well w some graphite spray. 10round Mecgar mags feed well.

Optic cover screws are junk.

Grip much improved, aluminum is hard to sand down w orbital.

Target is from 22CM, ignore that.

 

[Remington92]

@Formidilosus slightly off topic but do you have a specific breed of 9mm ammo you recommend for woods/ grizzly carry? Are things like the lehigh xtreme penetrator/ defender types marketing hype or actually bridge the gap between hollow point and hardcast?

 

[Bc45]

I wouldn’t do anything but order a Wilson Bullet proof 9mm extractor and 2-3 of these mags-

https://gunmagwarehouse.com/mec-gar-1911-9mm-10-round-anti-friction-magazine.html

The other mags I would look at are the Ed Brown ones, and Tripp Research. With those mags the gun may (probably will) work just fine. If it needs an extractor tweaked, there are videos of how to do so- takes 10 minutes in the range. Tune the Wilson BP extractor when it comes in and save the factory for a backup. Then shoot it. Everything else is user preference. For me they all get a GI A1 short trigger and a magwell.

Excuse my ignorance as I know basically nothing about pistols but is this the extractor you’re talking about? About to order a tisas b9r.

 

[Formidilosus]

Excuse my ignorance as I know basically nothing about pistols but is this the extractor you’re talking about? About to order a tisas b9r.

That’s it.

 

[Formidilosus]

What about with the cheaper off the shelf options that will likely need a little work? Would a commander 9mm have better odds of functioning with less effort than a government 9mm, or vice versa? Not so much can one make it work, but does one slide size inherently pair better with the 9mm cartridge over the other with less tuning.

The reason I ask is from what I’ve read, part of the reason colt reduced slide length on the first 9mm/commanders was to lighten slide mass to better accommodate the lighter 9mm. But that was a long time ago, and I’m sure a lot of factors have changed since then.

I believe theoretically that a commander should’ve the better in 9mm than a 5”. But I cannot say that I’ve seen that okay out in real life 1911’s.

 

[Formidilosus]

Between the single stack C, double stack C, and CS for a carry gun is there a “best option”? I bought a Tisas Carry DS which has been reliable and fun to shoot.

Probably CS as a pure carry gun.

 

[Formidilosus]

I can see how the C is the best all around option. If one were to primarily use one of these for uspsa/2 gun/etc and likely never carry it, would the P offer enough of a benefit over the C to choose it? Or are the gains marginal enough that the C’s overall utility and non-measurable differences in those settings (competition) not justify giving up the benefit of the C? I picked both models up in the store and while the P feels better in my hands, if there’s no appreciable difference I’d rather have the more well rounded version. Curious to hear your thoughts

Well, the grip is substantially larger in the P (or any other true 2011 mag version) than the C. Even for competing I would rather have the C for that reason, and .4” of barrel isn’t enough difference to matter.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus slightly off topic but do you have a specific breed of 9mm ammo you recommend for woods/ grizzly carry?

I’m not recommending anything. I use heavy hard cast, 147gr HST/Speer Gold Dot/G2, and even flat point FMJ’s at times personally. The G9 Defense Woodsmen ammo is really good in straight line penetration, but I can’t get a single pistol to shoot them worth a flip (6-8” groups at 25 yards versus sub 2” from any decent normal ammo); not only that but the POI is drastically off from all other ammo.

The safe answer is BB 147gr Hardcast.

Are things like the lehigh xtreme penetrator/ defender types marketing hype or actually bridge the gap between hollow point and hardcast?

I wouldn’t say they bridge the gap between HP and hard cast, but they do penetrate fine.

 

[Castle Rock]

I believe theoretically that a commander should’ve the better in 9mm than a 5”. But I cannot say that I’ve seen that okay out in real life 1911’s.

That is not really a thing, the proof is all the match guns in 38 super with extended barrels that run faultlessly

 

[Bluumoon]

Excuse my ignorance as I know basically nothing about pistols but is this the extractor you’re talking about? About to order a tisas b9r.

May as well get a short trigger from Wilson if ordering. They charge a good bit for shipping regardless.

 

[Bc45]

May as well get a short trigger from Wilson if ordering. They charge a good bit for shipping regardless.

What style did you go with?

 

[Bluumoon]

What style did you go with?

What style did you go with?

Short stainless one. Required some fitting, just needed to file the top a bit.

 

[Bluumoon]

 

[Formidilosus]

That is not really a thing, the proof is all the match guns in 38 super with extended barrels that run faultlessly

Do what? What does 38 super have to do with 9mm in 1911’s?

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

Do what? What does 38 super have to do with 9mm in 1911’s?

Just guessing...

Tisas 1911A1 DESPERADO - .38 Super/9MM