1911’s in general, 9mm versions specifically

[id_jon]

Nah, you need ALL the lumens...

But you can get most of the lumens for 1/10 the run time in 1/3 the size

 

[RockAndSage]

But you can get most of the lumens for 1/10 the run time in 1/3 the size

Speaking of lumens, I could use some advice on upgrading my pistol lights.

I've busted 3 switches now on TLR-7 HL-Xs, to the point where I keep a spare light on hand and just rotate it out. Size and performance are perfect for the CCW gun, but I want to get something bigger, more robust, and more reliable for OWB types of applications. The light needs to reach out to100yds effectively, and it needs to soundly cause pain and temp blindness on a target.

Top contenders are the Surefire 300 Turbo, and the Modlite PL350.

Any big pros or cons with either of these? Anything else I should consider?

 

[2Stamp]

But you can get most of the lumens for 1/10 the run time in 1/3 the size

Yes, but that's not ALL of them...

 

[2Stamp]

Speaking of lumens, I could use some advice on upgrading my pistol lights.

I've busted 3 switches now on TLR-7 HL-Xs, to the point where I keep a spare light on hand and just rotate it out. Size and performance are perfect for the CCW gun, but I want to get something bigger, more robust, and more reliable for OWB types of applications. The light needs to reach out to100yds effectively, and it needs to soundly cause pain and temp blindness on a target.

Top contenders are the Surefire 300 Turbo, and the Modlite PL350.

Any big pros or cons with either of these? Anything else I should consider?

The X300U has a higher output (1000 vs 650) than the Turbo with 15min less time, but I can't remember if it has a little wider "hot spot" than the Turbo. Both are same price. I don't have any time with the modlite.

The x300U is bright as hell. It lit up a mountain lion at around 170yds behind my house last year, FWIW.

 

[RockAndSage]

The X300U has a higher output (1000 vs 650) than the Turbo with 15min less time, but I can't remember if it has a little wider "hot spot" than the Turbo. Both are same price. I don't have any time with the modlite.

The x300U is bright as hell. It lit up a mountain lion at around 170yds behind my house last year, FWIW.

That sounds pretty appealing, thanks for the clarification on model too. How is it on the inside of a house? Too much at all?

 

[cubdriver84d]

If a particular 1911 has all the features you like, but comes bobtail only, like a 4.25 inch TRP that comes bobtail only, there is this:

Bobtail Regrets Mainspring Housing 25 LPI SS

Transform your bobtail 1911 with the Bobtail Regrets Mainspring Housing from Evolution Gun Works. Enjoy enhanced grip and premium quality for superior performance.

egwguns.com

You have any experience with those?

 

[43.6N]

Speaking of lumens, I could use some advice on upgrading my pistol lights.

I've busted 3 switches now on TLR-7 HL-Xs, to the point where I keep a spare light on hand and just rotate it out. Size and performance are perfect for the CCW gun, but I want to get something bigger, more robust, and more reliable for OWB types of applications. The light needs to reach out to100yds effectively, and it needs to soundly cause pain and temp blindness on a target.

Top contenders are the Surefire 300 Turbo, and the Modlite PL350.

Any big pros or cons with either of these? Anything else I should consider?

The PL350 is pretty stout. On par with highly regarded rifle lights IMO. Easy 200yd throw. I had one of the old 650lumen X300’s, and the mod light blew its doors off. I can’t compare it to any of the new gen X300’s though.

It is slightly longer than the x300’s. And gives a little muzzle standoff on the G34 and 5” Kimber. But still fits in the X300 safariland holster. I know the Tenicor velo Lux specifically states that they fit the pl350.
Here are a few pics showing the muzzle standoff with what I had on hand:


(And the TLR1 actually tucks in pretty well with the Tenicor holster. Surprisingly comfy).

As far as other lights to consider:
The new cloud EPL has my attention as far as something new. I’ve very much liked my other cloud products. But will wait until a little more info about it starts to circulate from users.

 

[RockAndSage]

The PL350 is pretty stout. On par with highly regarded rifle lights IMO. Easy 200yd throw. I had one of the old 650lumen X300’s, and the mod light blew its doors off. I can’t compare it to any of the new gen X300’s though.

It is slightly longer than the x300’s. And gives a little muzzle standoff on the G34 and 5” Kimber. But still fits in the X300 safariland holster. I know the Tenicor velo Lux specifically states that they fit the pl350.
Here are a few pics showing the muzzle standoff with what I had on hand:
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(And the TLR1 actually tucks in pretty well with the Tenicor holster. Surprisingly comfy).

As far as other lights to consider:
The new cloud EPL has my attention as far as something new. I’ve very much liked my other cloud products. But will wait until a little more info about it starts to circulate from users.

That's awesome, thank you. Appreciate the details, and sharing those photos. Holsters are one of the bigger concerns about the modlite, so that helps a lot.

 

[JF0]

Who's got Springfield EMP experience, particularly in the 4" format?

I've got my bad idea jeans on. Considering a variety of net worth reduction techniques:

1) Convince someone to A-cut one for a COA (is there even enough width?)

2) Convince someone to bury a Bowmar (is there even enough length?)

3) Send to a smith to mill front cocking serrations and install a roll trigger (probably the only rational idea here)

4) Send to a smith to somehow attach a light rail or some other provision to carry with a TLR-7

I should probably just buy a second C but I'm curious about the single stack 9mm reduced grip world.

-J

Springfield launched COA cuts on their Operator, TRP, and Prodigy models. I was planning to pull the trigger on an operator and discovered this. As of now I’ve only found single stacks in 45 but likely just a matter of time until the 9mm versions hit the streets.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

Springfield launched COA cuts on their Operator, TRP, and Prodigy models. I was planning to pull the trigger on an operator and discovered this. As of now I’ve only found single stacks in 45 but likely just a matter of time until the 9mm versions hit the streets.

Where? I do not see that on their website.

 

[cubdriver84d]

Where? I do not see that on their website.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/shot-2026-springfield-armory-x-aimpoint-coa-handguns/

 

[JF0]

Springfield Armory x Aimpoint | COA - Springfield Armory

www.springfield-armory.com

Link mentions 1911 and 1911 DS coming soon. Guns.com has TRP and Operator in 45 available and a Prodigy. Just search Springfield COA and they will show up.

 

[Sponge]

Big day in the Sponge household, OG-6s, Reaper, and new 1911 all released from jail/delivered today. Good thing the wife is out of town.

Springfield Garrison, 4.25" 9mm, blued. Somewhat inspired by Forms throwaway comment that Garrisons are decent pistols, @Hypernatremia Tisas Tank commander build, and a general interest in Commander sized 1911's. @43.6N Operator is pretty slick too. I have some plans for building this out, and my main interest is a solid frame/slide/barrel to start with, but its nice it comes with stuff like beavertail safety and decent sight cuts and classic 1911 styling. MIM stuff will get replaced along the way.

Walked over to the indoor range after doing the paper work, a few dry fires then a 258/300 FBI instructor Qual (now my go comparison between pistols, always shot from low ready - indoor range rules) and then some more general shooting including specifically testing extractor function.

Trying out the olive oil lube, seems to work fine so far.

Tested extractor function shooting strong hand only and both hands with no mag inserted, 9 rounds each of Magtech brass case 115 gr. Had one case drop thru the magwell on the strong hand only portion, otherwise ejection was 4 o'clock with the case moving mostly horizontal out of the gun. With loaded mag ejection is 4 o'clock with about 1 foot of rise off the gun. No shooting malfunctions other than that. A Wilson bulletproof extractor is en-route.

The provided 9 round flush magazine seems to feed fine, however, if loading +1, when removing the mag to top it off, more often than not a round strips off inside the magwell. Is this a normal thing?
Anyways, some 10 round Mecgars are on order, the provided 9 rounder will be on range duty.

Trigger is decent, but maybe smidge heavy. The KC roll trigger kit is calling my name, but will run with the stock trigger for a bit. Sights are 3-dot, they will get replaced with Dawsons. I will do some sort of magwell, Chen SI magwell looks sexy as hell. Really like the slim grips, may grit them, they're kinda slick as is. Front strap will get grip tape for now.

Bushing seems decently snug, but the barrel seems to have more play than I would expect at the back end when field stripped. However, I don't have much experience here or points of comparison.

The significant increase in dispersion from 7 to 15 yards I really want to blame on the sights and their lack of precision, but there was some questionable trigger work going on too.

This is one of, if not my favorite, threads here. Thanks all for the inspiration.

 

[Steve O]

I can’t stand bobtails. As in- not an option I will accept at all.

The bottom of the grip is missing in my hand- that’s what it feels like. There is a small objective difference in shooting, but a very large perception difference to me.


And they look stupid.

I was going to sarcastically comment on that picture of the Delta style on the leg; “how is it possible to CC a non bobbed, non “melted” full size 1911”? Thanks for more info.