Ok, I usually try not to knock anything until I try it for my self. I also try not to get caught up in internet hype as there is lots of that going around these days, for all sorts of things. But after all the hoopla regarding the Attack pants, and the fact KUIU had some Vias in stock, I ordered a pair. Got to test them out this morning with a 4 mile trek with snow shoes and a pack. I REALLY like them, and will be ordering another pair in Charcoal for other uses. The biggest thing for me is comfort and they don't get clammy. Even my First Lite Kanab pants would get clammy. Maybe these Attacks will in warmer weather, but so far so good. I could have rang the sweat out of my beanie, merino and Capilene tops, and cotton underwear. But the Attacks always felt dry, and after spending 10 minutes in the pickup they were completely dry. I love the stretch material.