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Yes, I’m talking about dialing. A “tall target test” is designed to prove a scope’s ability to dial up and down without losing zero. It is a different issue than a “migrating zero” Leupolds have been known and shown to have significant issues...
Search this topic on google. You’ll see threads just like this one on every single hunting and shooting forum since their inception. Leupold engineers directly addressed this topic at least twice that I’m aware of in the last couple years. It was less than impressive IMO. It’s worth looking up...
This is the part you’re missing. For a bunch of us, the scope failed during intended use. Drop testing is just a way to replicate the failures many people have seen during regular field use.
These tests didn’t come about because people were bored and didn’t have anything else to do. They were...
I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot an elk with a 7mm-08. There’s an entire thread dedicated to kills with that cartridge.
I killed a nice bull very dead with a chopped 7SAW a couple weeks ago. Just a 7mm-08 with an ackly shoulder. 165 TGK @ 2675MV, 400 yard shot. Supressed, it’s very mild. My rifle...
It’s be worth your time to take a spin through the Small caliber kill threads. 22, 6mm specifically. Even if you don’t go that route, it’s eye opening. In short, tissue damage is what kills. There’s definitely ways to achieve extremely lethal tissue damage with smaller cartridges/calibers as...
I think he was using the 108 Berger Elite Hunter (EH). Hoping for some photos of some wound channels with that bullet. Highly considering it for a 6CM build.
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I was assuming you had read the thread up to this point. Those variables have been discussed ad nauseam. With that context, you seemed to be implying that there was some other explanation for the poi shift.
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Dude you might want to take your own advice there. I’ve been commenting on this thread from the very beginning, and made it very clear that those variables need to be accounted for, but I’ll repeat myself:
Step 1: Make sure your gun is set up properly. All sorts of videos on how to make sure...
Appreciate the clarification. Im the same way with testing gear. In this case specifically, I’ve experienced the exact failures Form has recreated with testing, and had great luck using scopes the “drop tests” recommend.
I don’t agree with him about everything, that’s for sure. He and I have...
The LOGIC is pretty darn simple. As myself and many others have stated from the very beginning of this thread. not ALL Leupold scopes have a problem. There are duds and studs. If you’ve got a good one, by all means, use it! They’re perfect hunting scopes on paper. Have been my favorite to use by...
If it was on “two weeks prior” according to the OP, then went into a safe. Then came out, and was off that significantly, that’s a very untrustworthy piece of gear. OP mentioned no drops, falls, ect. So logically, it moved from riding in a gun case to the mountains. Which matches up with LOTS of...
lol I had exactly the same thought. This coming from the side of the argument that’s been calling everyone cult members for engaging in testing of their own gear and sharing/trusting empirical evidence
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If you’re just here to troll, that’s cool man. Some of us are here to actually learn something, or help someone else out based on our experiences. Most of us on here are pretty serous about our sport, and take it seriously. If you’ve got time to stir the pot just for the heck of it, good on ya...
Instead of spending endless hours arguing with Form on here, you anti-Form cult members could put your heads together and construct your own tests, proving the Form cult completely wrong once and for all. Then you’d be able to contribute something useful to this forum. Everybody wins!
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