ZeroTech TRACE ADV 3-18×44 FFP Shoot2Hunt

[solarshooter]

There is not a separate thread for it, but the initial eval has been done on all three- it’s in this thread. The scopes have been used heavily and all three are well over 3,000 rounds on each. Two of the three have been through 2x S2H classes used by students, the other went through one class. Function has been perfect.

Seems like it would be well worth breaking that review out into a separate thread. Both to show it was equivalently tested and to track reliability over time.

 

[Formidilosus]

Seems like it would be well worth breaking that review out into a separate thread. Both to show it was equivalently tested and to track reliability over time.

Sure. But I generally don’t post an eval in that sub forum on scopes that aren’t available yet, etc. I have multiple scopes that aren’t “in production” yet that I haven’t posted an eval on. Having said that, these are production scopes, so I probably should.

 

[flyfisher117]

My dumb opinion: it would be better to do a proper evaluation with a random scope pulled from the first 1 or 2 production runs.

 

[RockAndSage]

My dumb opinion: it would be better to do a proper evaluation with a random scope pulled from the first 1 or 2 production runs.

That would definitely cut out at least one angle for people to complain or call conspiracy about.

 

[BBob]

My dumb opinion: it would be better to do a proper evaluation with a random scope pulled from the first 1 or 2 production runs.

Not dumb at all and would give the SH boys one less thing they could point to when attempting to invalidate the results

 

[Q_Sertorius]

That would definitely cut out at least one angle for people to complain or call conspiracy about.

By that point, there’s going to be 500 of these in the wild and presumably mounted on rifles being used for hunting. But sure, no harm in that.

I’m really looking forward to the first Chicken Little post about one of these “failing” or not being great for hunting with a story of a lost mammoth of a lifetime. That thread is going to go for about a hundred pages with the “actually, it was mounted backwards with scotch tape” post around page 53.

Edit - also, by July, there will have been more S2H courses that have tried it out.

 

[Axlrod]

Not dumb at all and would give the SH boys one less thing they could point to when attempting to invalidate the results

For me, there is a proven track record of the scopes already in the eval, so there's that. And I already ordered two of the S2H scopes. Oh and lastly I don't give AF what anybody says on SH.

 

[Dave Thomas]

By that point, there’s going to be 500 of these in the wild and presumably mounted on rifles being used for hunting. But sure, no harm in that.

I’m really looking forward to the first Chicken Little post about one of these “failing” or not being great for hunting with a story of a lost mammoth of a lifetime. That thread is going to go for about a hundred pages with the “actually, it was mounted backwards with scotch tape” post around page 53.

Edit - also, by July, there will have been more S2H courses that have tried it out.

Don't forget that you'll have 30 pages complaining that it's still not available in moa.

 

[glock233]

Excited for my two on order to arrive. The feature set and described ruggedness cannot be beat at this price point.

 

[DangerRanger]

My dumb opinion: it would be better to do a proper evaluation with a random scope pulled from the first 1 or 2 production runs.

Both

People are placing orders for thousands of dollars based on the ones out right now

 

[flyfisher117]

Both

People are placing orders for thousands of dollars based on the ones out right now

Consumerism at its finest.

Sure it’s worth noting all of the testing and abuse the “production” prototype scopes went through and are going through. That’s already happening in this thread and others consolidating it would be nice.

The final test will be proving that once in full production they still pass the requirements.

 

[DangerRanger]

Consumerism at its finest.

Sure it’s worth noting all of the testing and abuse the “production” prototype scopes went through and are going through. That’s already happening in this thread and others consolidating it would be nice.

The final test will be proving that once in full production they still pass the requirements.

Dont really what you’re trying to convey here

 

[IrkedCitizen]

He is trying to imply that LOW doesn't know how to build a durable scope and that the 3 prototypes are not enough to say that there won't be reliability issues. That we are all sheep for buying into the hype train

 

[flyfisher117]

Dont really what you’re trying to convey here

A person buying thousands of dollars in scopes based on the prototypes, sorry “not prototypes”, is just silly.
I don’t believe LOW would do it but it’s not uncommon for manufacturers to cherry pick their favorite ones out of a run of prototypes to send out for testing.

So back to my original comment it would be most meaningful to drop test and write the official drop test on scopes pulled from the first couple of runs at random. It would also trigger the Hide if they passed with flying colors.

He is trying to imply that LOW doesn't know how to build a durable scope and that the 3 prototypes are not enough to say that there won't be reliability issues. That we are all sheep for buying into the hype train

Correct. Hence why I bought one.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

There are a bunch of doubters that bought a scope so they can break it and throw shade at S2H

 

[flyfisher117]

There are a bunch of doubters that bought a scope so they can break it and throw shade at S2H

That’s me. The king doubter. Ready to stick it to them…

 

[DangerRanger]

A person buying thousands of dollars in scopes based on the prototypes, sorry “not prototypes”, is just silly.
I don’t believe LOW would do it but it’s not uncommon for manufacturers to cherry pick their favorite ones out of a run of prototypes to send out for testing.

So back to my original comment it would be most meaningful to drop test and write the official drop test on scopes pulled from the first couple of runs at random. It would also trigger the Hide if they passed with flying colors.

Correct. Hence why I bought one.

Well the plurality comes from one more scope, I don’t personally think it’s radically different than one scope. Nor do I think any of that is a rebuttal to just having an official drop eval of the prototype that they are basing their entire business model off of

My understanding is they needed preorders to get the ball rolling, if that’s the case just do an official eval so it’s cleaner than these dumpster threads, then do another on a random from the batch

I don’t see how it’s terribly complicated. Granted that doesn’t mean UM agrees with me

 

[RS_Non-Res]

woops....
@flyfisher117 ... ask @solarshooter about it...or scroll up to post #842 (15 whole posts up thread)

 

[DangerRanger]

@DangerRanger ... ask @solarshooter about it...or scroll up to post #842 (15 whole posts up thread)

I saw the post… I’m agreeing with it

 

[RS_Non-Res]

crap - fixed it...maybe - I'm on the verge of getting cranky.