zenbivy or argali 20 bag

[svivian]

I had an echo park 20 and I tested it out one night in the back yard, with joggers and a hoody on, I froze and it was only mid 40’s overnight. For context, I have the sea to summit either light extreme pad. For me, I would shy away from the echo park, I’ve read other reviews that are similar to mine.

Ive had their summit park 15 (same design) for over 10 years and its been very warm for me. I have heard they switched to an eco friendly insulation. With that said im using a 9.4 R value mattress and car camping.

With a mattress with only a 3.2 R value i wouldn't be surprised you might get cold.

I appreciate the feedback on this particular bag. $156 shipped for the BA 20 vs $205 for the zenbivy overland 30 has caused me some analysis paralysis

 

[brca005]

Ive had their summit park 15 (same design) for over 10 years and its been very warm for me. I have heard they switched to an eco friendly insulation. With that said im using a 9.4 R value mattress and car camping.

With a mattress with only a 3.2 R value i wouldn't be surprised you might get cold.

I appreciate the feedback on this particular bag. $156 shipped for the BA 20 vs $205 for the zenbivy overland 30 has caused me some analysis paralysis

Sorry, it’s the either lite xt extreme insulated, it’s got the 6.2 R value.

I just thought I’d give you my experience with it.

I loved the set up of it (I’m a side sleeper who tosses), but couldn’t get over how cold I got, when I should’ve stayed warmer in temps 20+ warmer than its limit.

That’s the reason I ordered a zenbivy, was for the same setup but everyone who has a zenbivy raves about them. If I don’t like it, I’ll send it back and use the bag I’ve already got.

 

[svivian]

Sorry, it’s the either lite xt extreme insulated, it’s got the 6.2 R value.

I just thought I’d give you my experience with it.

I loved the set up of it (I’m a side sleeper who tosses), but couldn’t get over how cold I got, when I should’ve stayed warmer in temps 20+ warmer than its limit.

That’s the reason I ordered a zenbivy, was for the same setup but everyone who has a zenbivy raves about them. If I don’t like it, I’ll send it back and use the bag I’ve already got.

No i appreciate the real world feedback!

When i saw the park series bags from BA were no longer the down insulation, I looked at the zenbivy for the same reasons you did.