Zen bivy vs western mtn versalite

[Elkangle]

Looking at experience/thoughts on the two bags

This will be a shoulder season bag, teens at the lowest for temps...will be used all over the country from up north to lower 48

if the zen bivy runs hot does a guy get the 25 degree ? Muscovy down vs goose down ? Is muscovy just a cheaper product for the companys margin ? Will the 10 deg be over kill if average night is in the 30s ?

Or for a bomb proof bag is the versalite/alpinelite the way to go

Will be used in a 4 season shelter

For those who have slept in both in a wide veriety of conditions would love to hear your thoughts..what you trusting your life with

 

[RWT]

Watching. Curious if you sleep hot or cold

 

[Elkangle]

Watching. Curious if you sleep hot or cold

Id say i sleep average, ive never been in a bag that i thought was underrated... usually dont zip up mummy bags but will wear a alpha hoody to bed

I like the idea of no zippers as its one less thing to fail but the idea of jumping into a zen bivy soaking wet on a 20 deg night isnt as fun as the same idea in a full WM mummy bag

 

[sneaky]

Once it gets mid 20s and lower the appeal of quilts is really lost for me. I've got a 20 degree quilt, and it's fine for archery elk and deer. But once those nighttime temps start dropping a good bag is just way easier to stay warm in. Ymmv

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[AK_cowboy]

Also following to see if anyone has any strong opinions about the goose down bs Muscovy down