Nothing new but after a full season behind the 12x I have been very impressed with them. Had them side by side with my buddies NL 12s and the two of us both agreed the NL’s were marginally better in most categories. The zeiss were brighter in lowlight and at the difference in price I was not upset that I was the one with the zeiss at the end of the day. If I was in the market I would buy them again and not think twice about it.