Your brain on microplastics?

[TaperPin]

Micro plastics come from cutting boards, plastic cooking spoons, plastic of any kind that comes in contact with anything going in our bodies. It also comes from synthetic fibers that flake off our clothes and we inhale or ingest.

The fluoride conspiracy theory has been tossed around for decades. While it’s true fluoride can and has killed people in high doses, in the normal range it’s pretty harmless and the reduction in cavities is something that affects a person throughout their life.

I flew into an Alaskan village sitting next to a dentist after the community decided to turn off the fluoride injection. The dentist said in a matter of months the number of cavities increased 10x. 10x is a lot.

Some old fluoride injectors only had single redundancy and a malfunction could result in fluoride poisoning. There was a death in Alaska. All new fluoride injectors have a double redundant system that is much safer.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199401133300203

 

[JDT1982]

It not only affects your brain. It negatively affects your testosterone levels and reproductive health. Joe Rogan had a podcast with Dr. Shanna Swan covering the effects of microplastics on our health.

 

[Customweld]

Micro plastics come from cutting boards, plastic cooking spoons, plastic of any kind that comes in contact with anything going in our bodies. It also comes from synthetic fibers that flake off our clothes and we inhale or ingest.

The fluoride conspiracy theory has been tossed around for decades. While it’s true fluoride can and has killed people in high doses, in the normal range it’s pretty harmless and the reduction in cavities is something that affects a person throughout their life.

I flew into an Alaskan village sitting next to a dentist after the community decided to turn off the fluoride injection. The dentist said in a matter of months the number of cavities increased 10x. 10x is a lot.

Some old fluoride injectors only had single redundancy and a malfunction could result in fluoride poisoning. There was a death in Alaska. All new fluoride injectors have a double redundant system that is much safer.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199401133300203

Plastic utensils, non stick cookware, micro fleece. Non stick coatings on food wrappers. Micro plastics are everywhere.

 

[dirtshooter]

We went fluoride free toothpaste in our house, no issues for the last 4 years. Those with bad teeth are either unfortunate to inherit them by genetics or they neglected their teeth since they were a child. Mouth health is extremely important to regular health. Fluoride is terrible for you.

 

[whiskybiker]

Instead of putting questionable chemicals in our water to fix problems. We could just cut back on all the excess sugars and crap food. You know-the real causes of all those cavities.....

 

[SloppyJ]

100% agreed. The big stuff like cardiovascular health, cholesterol, etc are many many orders of magnitude higher on the impact and likelihood scale.

I’m in the water industry and there have been cases of enterprising utilities getting fined for violations for what they put in the pipes while they get away with bottling the same stuff for a long time. Now if the bottlers have higher standards they hold themselves to that’s a separate matter. In general, I’m sure they do

Well the article claims that our brains are 1/200 plastics now. For example, what effects does this have on the aging of the brain? What if it shaves off a couple years of strong brain function? Not saying it does or doesn’t, but life expectancy has greatly increased since we started using plastics so we could easily just not now yet

Just wanted to say hi to a fellow water industry professional. What do you do?

 

[Poser]

Instead of putting questionable chemicals in our water to fix problems. We could just cut back on all the excess sugars and crap food. You know-the real causes of all those cavities.....

And teach and practice proper dental hygiene.


Side note: I’ve been using floss made from compressed plant fiber (in an effort to reduce some exposure to plastics) for a couple of years now. It’s pricey but performs just as well, even slightly better since it’s has a bit more texture.

 

[BFM]

Avoid plastic as much as reasonably possible.
Filter tap water. https://www.usaberkeyfilters.com/products/big-berkey-water-filter/
Fluoride free toothpaste.
Dentists give you cavities. I haven't been to a dentist in 20 years, I've never had a cavity once in my life.

 

[fwafwow]

I'd be more concerned with fluoride in your drinking water.

National Toxicology Program Study: Fluoride Found In Drinking Water Connected To Lower IQ In Kids

WASHINGTON D.C (WSAU) - A newly released US government analysis found a connection between children's lower IQ...

wsau.com

Interesting ruling by a federal judge regarding fluoride in water and the EPA's obligations for a regulatory response - https://momsagainstfluoridation.org/sites/default/files/Court Ruling (1).pdf

As far as I can tell, this decision can still be appealed by the EPA.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

Interesting ruling by a federal judge regarding fluoride in water and the EPA's obligations for a regulatory response - https://momsagainstfluoridation.org/sites/default/files/Court Ruling (1).pdf

As far as I can tell, this decision can still be appealed by the EPA.

Nah man it's good for you! Stop thinking about it and drink up.

 

[fwafwow]

Nah man it's good for you! Stop thinking about it and drink up.

Sugar, seed oils, carbs, ultra processed foods, Big Pharma, Big Ag, additives, glyphosate, etc. - it is indeed better to not think about it.

 

[HingleMcCringleberry]

Sugar, seed oils, carbs, ultra processed foods, Big Pharma, Big Ag, additives, glyphosate, etc. - it is indeed better to not think about it.

The government says all of those are good for you. No need to worry.

 

[fwafwow]

The government says all of those are good for you. No need to worry.

You’re right. Not to mention some trade associations.

 

[WaWox]

I love someone saying a couple IQ points are worth losing in order to prevent cavities.

1. It's completely unheard of in Europe to put fluoride into water and their teeth have fewer cavities than USA teeth
2. Cavities is a minor medical issue. Lower IQ is something that affects your entire life trajectory and affects society at large. If you raise IQ by 15 points you increase the number of people who would go from Mensa IQ range (>130) to "smarter than a large chunk of Nobel prize winners" by factor 0.0223/0.00135 ie 16.5x. Normal distribution is crazy at the tails ans means hence matter a lot.

 

[fwafwow]

I love someone saying a couple IQ points are worth losing in order to prevent cavities.

1. It's completely unheard of in Europe to put fluoride into water and their teeth have fewer cavities than USA teeth
2. Cavities is a minor medical issue. Lower IQ is something that affects your entire life trajectory and affects society at large. If you raise IQ by 15 points you increase the number of people who would go from Mensa IQ range (>130) to "smarter than a large chunk of Nobel prize winners" by factor 0.0223/0.00135 ie 16.5x. Normal distribution is crazy at the tails ans means hence matter a lot.

I’m very early into investigating and analyzing the issue, but so far it reminds me of other topics on which we were all raised (age dependent) to believe. I heard a guy refer to this as “cultural baggage”

 

[WyldGoose]

I always found it hilarious that when you question why they put fluoride, which is only allegedly “okay” to consume in small doses, into the public water supply….the best answer you get is that they care about the condition of our teeth.

And they also encourage us to consume a bunch of other shit that clearly destroys us physically and keeps us fat and sick. But they care about our teeth so much that they go to the effort and expense of keeping fluoride flowing into the water supply.

And with how well our drinking of fluoride keeps us from cavities it’s a wonder how dentists still exist.

 

[fwafwow]

I always found it hilarious that when you question why they put fluoride, which is only allegedly “okay” to consume in small doses, into the public water supply….the best answer you get is that they care about the condition of our teeth.

And they also encourage us to consume a bunch of other shit that clearly destroys us physically and keeps us fat and sick. But they care about our teeth so much that they go to the effort and expense of keeping fluoride flowing into the water supply.

And with how well our drinking of fluoride keeps us from cavities it’s a wonder how dentists still exist.

I don't (at least yet) believe that the gov't is out to control our minds with fluoride, but I heard a recent discussion about the history of fluoride usage, including the industries that benefit from this way we "save" our teeth. Similar to the industries that benefit from the US Dietary Guidelines, etc.

 

[OKHunter84]

Read some articles today about this study (admittedly not peer reviewed yet), saying that the average American brain in their study was 0.5% microplastics. I’m not aware of any particular study definitively linking microplastics to health conditions in humans, but that can’t be good.

I haven’t thrown away my Nalgene or camelback but I’m avoiding disposable bottles. Kind of ironic for my hippy dippy granola-lite friends that won’t touch tap water because of the “toxins” but slurp down polymer soup bottled by your choice of multinational corporation. (Also, water safety standards for bottled water are lower than tap water.)

I work for the largest private water bottling company in north America. The water we bring into our plants is local tap water unless it's spring water and then it's trucked in. The specific plant I work in the water comes in somewhere around 135 ppm of particles or bacteria and after we've purified it, that number is 6 ppm. The standards for testing and quality control for bottled water are much higher then tap water. You wouldn't want to drink water straight from the line due to ozone being added to further ensure that all bacteria is killed. The normal dissipation time for the ozone is 48 hours and longer in the winter months due to the cold.

The reason bottled water has a best by date is not due to the water expiring but the plastic starts breaking down after 547 days. Even though we have water lines that are capable of making 200k bottles per hour, every bottle has a date code that is updated to the minute that the bottle was made.

 

[ODB]

I work for the largest private water bottling company in north America. The water we bring into our plants is local tap water unless it's spring water and then it's trucked in. The specific plant I work in the water comes in somewhere around 135 ppm of particles or bacteria and after we've purified it, that number is 6 ppm. The standards for testing and quality control for bottled water are much higher then tap water. You wouldn't want to drink water straight from the line due to ozone being added to further ensure that all bacteria is killed. The normal dissipation time for the ozone is 48 hours and longer in the winter months due to the cold.

The reason bottled water has a best by date is not due to the water expiring but the plastic starts breaking down after 547 days. Even though we have water lines that are capable of making 200k bottles per hour, every bottle has a date code that is updated to the minute that the bottle was made.

What do you think the consequences are of grocery stores storing bottled water outside where it gets hammered by the sun all day?

 

[SloppyJ]

I work for the largest private water bottling company in north America. The water we bring into our plants is local tap water unless it's spring water and then it's trucked in. The specific plant I work in the water comes in somewhere around 135 ppm of particles or bacteria and after we've purified it, that number is 6 ppm. The standards for testing and quality control for bottled water are much higher then tap water. You wouldn't want to drink water straight from the line due to ozone being added to further ensure that all bacteria is killed. The normal dissipation time for the ozone is 48 hours and longer in the winter months due to the cold.

The reason bottled water has a best by date is not due to the water expiring but the plastic starts breaking down after 547 days. Even though we have water lines that are capable of making 200k bottles per hour, every bottle has a date code that is updated to the minute that the bottle was made.

Tell me what you're considering bacteria. I work in water distribution and obviously if you're using tap, there has to be a chlorine risidual. Municipal water is tested for total coliform regularly which is an indicator for certain types of bacteria. That's about all that they care about. Yearly, you must report results from other tests such as lead, etc..