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Mikeha33

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I'm going to upgrade to a new, or maybe a 2012 model bow, but I don't know what I'm going to go with. I'd like to build a complete set up for $1000-$1100. I'm not in a hurry to purchase, and plan to shoot a lot of different types before I buy, but honestly am completely unbiased at this point. I'd like to be able to pull about 75lbs, and need a 28.5 draw length, so keep that in mind while making suggestions. Also, I'm probably going to switch from a whisker biscuit to a drop away. Recommendations or advice concerning that decision? Let me know what you guys love, and why, and also what you shy away from.
Any and all input is greatly appreciated and will be considered, after all, who better to get advice from then the guys who put their equipment through hell and back!
 

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I just switched out from Obsession bow to the new 2013 Bowtech Carbon knight.

 
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You can buy my Mathews Creed that is for sale on the classifieds. It is a great bow, but for some reason I have it made up in my mind I need a new Hoyt carbon bow.
 
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I've had the best luck with Spot Hogg sights. Tough and reliable. Their moveable sight family is what I would go with. It's nice to be able to dial to a range and shoot. They're more versatile you can use 1 3 5 7 pins, and still be able to dial your range.

If I could do it over with a rest I would get a Hamskea Versa rest. I've heard great things about them. Right now I am running a QAD hdx rest and I question how consistent it is.

Quiver I love the tight spot. It sits really close to the riser making for a better balance. Western hunting requires your quiver to stay on, and the Tight Spot is the ticket IMO.

As far as a stab I like the bee stingers. I run a 10 in to protect my sight.

Broadheads I used G5 montecs for years with great results. I switched over to RamCats, and I won't be going back. They fly awesome and cut one massive hole.
 
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I second the Carbon Knight. As was said above, on Nov. 1st msrp is supposed to drop to $599.00 meaning dealers will have it even cheaper. At that price you can add quality accessories, stay under your spend limit and have a lightweight, good shooting, easy to tune bow. 28.5 draw length is no problem and your good to 70 lbs. but not sure you can go to 75. Good luck and have fun.
 

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If you are completely unbiased at this point, you are in a perfect position to buy the "best" bow for you. I went to a bow shop looking for brand x. But after shooting several bows, I went with brand y. Any bow in that price range will be a good one. In fact, you could still get a now for $300-400 less and still get a good bow. You just won't be contributing as much to some manufacturer's advertising campaign. I have a whisker biscuit on my old bow (which is now my back up bow) and a no name brand sight. On my current bow, I have a spot hog sight and a drop away rest. I am happy with either rest and either sight.
 

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SW has 2013 Bear Anarchy 29/70 for 599.99 on closeout. That is one heck of an accurate bow. Long ata but its pretty easy to tune and once you get it set up its not that hard to shoot it well. I know that I put one on layaway.
 

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I second the Carbon Knight. As was said above, on Nov. 1st msrp is supposed to drop to $599.00 meaning dealers will have it even cheaper. At that price you can add quality accessories, stay under your spend limit and have a lightweight, good shooting, easy to tune bow. 28.5 draw length is no problem and your good to 70 lbs. but not sure you can go to 75. Good luck and have fun.

Anyone know the reasoning behind the msrp price drop?
 

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I shoot a helium from the first year they came out a few years back. Best bow available at the time I was looking, so I switched from Hoyt to Mathews. I won't be switching for another 6-7 years at which point ill reassess the market on what's out there.
 
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shoot what fits your needs best, who cares what others think or what the crazies on tv shoot.
dont be fooled by marketing gimmicks.
dont be affraid to look at the "smaller" companies like elite, strother, prime...

my best advice after 2 years of pretending i liked the tiny little heli-m.... dont sacrifice shootability for lightweight and compact size. All things held equal, it is impossible to shoot a bow with 31 in ata that weighs 3 pounds as accurately as a longer heavier bow... period, its physics.

dont sacrifice the MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR in a bow... accuracy.

Joe
 
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That said, i have never been as happy with a bow as I am my 2013 Elite answer. Not the fastest, lightest, coolest, or most gizmos and gadgets... but it flat out shoots.

I never though i would shoot any thing other than hoyts for all of my target set ups, i have liked this elite so much i am selling one of my vantage elite + set ups for an elite tour.

Joe
 

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That said, i have never been as happy with a bow as I am my 2013 Elite answer. Not the fastest, lightest, coolest, or most gizmos and gadgets... but it flat out shoots.

I never though i would shoot any thing other than hoyts for all of my target set ups, i have liked this elite so much i am selling one of my vantage elite + set ups for an elite tour.

Joe
I'd echo everything Joe said. I have a '12 answer. Best bow I've shot.

That said, get one that fits you and that you shoot well. Don't worry about what all us keyboard geniuses say or suggest. If you have a grand to spend, the world is your oyster in the semi-used bow market.
 

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I personally love my New Breed Archery bows. They are simple and built with very high quality. The 2 track cam is very easy to set up and tune, just like the Carbon Knight. The bows are basically bullet proof, not a lot of gadgetry to go wrong. The best thing about them I think is dealing with the small company. Warranty work and customer service is just plain awesome.

All that being said, there are some sick bows out there right now. The Carbon Knight is a great price point bow. The Bear Motives are wicked awesome too and you will probably be able to pick up a Motive 6 for cheaper this year since they just rolled out a new flagship bow.

The tough thing is that most all companies make a sweet bow nowadays. There is truly something for everyone! So you should probably get out and shoot em all. If you want to get your hands on a New Breed to shoot then let me know, if you are in Northern Colorado anyways.

I really like my Spot Hogg sights and Bee Stinger stab also. I think those are some of the ultimate accessories. I have had great success with Ripcord rests but would also highly recommend the Hamskea Versa Rest for high quality.
 
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I would shoot as many different bows and then like I think was said earlier, pick a brand. I picked a bow your price range last year.

In my research I found that the valleys and backwalls had different feels. I ended up picking hoyt. I then did more research online and found out which models had the cam I liked. I picked the hoyt vector as my choice. I didn't think the hoyt carbon was worth the extra money. I would have been happy with other manufacturers, this one just felt the best in my hand. I then went back into two hoyt dealers and asked questions. One was clearly "nicer" to me and I chose his shop.

After shooting it quite a bit this past year, I know I made a great choice. It's smooth and very shootable. As for drop down rests. I think they are all good. Pick one you are comfortable with. Just pick one with full containment.

Mike
 

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in 2010, that beotch, the GOOD IDEA FAIRY whispered in my ear (very seductively, i might add).."you need a new bow..!"

i ran and bought the flagship bow at the time from Mathews. the new Z7. it was awful. the GIF wasnt done with me. she breathed into my ear, "sell the Mathews Switchback XT, you love"..ok, SOLD!

biggest, stupidest mistake at the time. i suffered with that bow for 3 years. everytime i drew that bow back, i had a weird feeling. i just didnt trust it. it showed, in the way i hunted. a few times, i let down at deer in the 60 yard range. i killed my limit with turkey with that bow, but no big game animals.

do NOT chase the latest and greatest.

the search was on! i was looking for the Mathews Switchback XT feel. i found it in an ELITE Energy 35. it isnt fast at all. same general pin spacings as my SBXT and Z7. i know it isnt fast. so far so good. find a bow you like and master it. i am NEVER EVER going to let somebody else convince me i need a new bow. not for a really long time. i wish i still had that SBXT from 2007. it was perfectly fine.
 
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What Joe said is true but I must add that Carbon knight is a dream to shoot and holds just fine. Im just as accurate with it as I was my 35 inch ata Obsession. I completely agree longer ata bows are more forgiving and stable in the hand but dont discount the shorter bows. For me it works better cause its compact and thats my style of hunting. Backpacking in and need something that shoots dead on but also is easy to manage in the field. you have to weigh all the options find what works best for you.

Did you kill anything this season with the Obsession?
 
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